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Aren't you hijacking the thread by telling us we're hijacking the thread????!!!!!! LOL
Come to think about that..................YES I AM

Seriously though some people would rather the original topic be maintained throughout the thread, but sometimes it doesn't. In this threads case at least it has stuck to OIL as a topic, if not about 6V92/8V92 engine oil .

I'm the just the messenger in this case just relaying some feelings of individuals.
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To get things back on track!

Tom,
Here's a site that advertises the Rotella 40W, from quart cases, to 3 pack gallons to 5 gal pails to 55 gal drums. I can't say they're cheap, but if that's what you need, then that's what you need.
http://www.jmsonline.net/OIL-SHELL-R...0WT-55G-DM.htm

They should have some. If we'd have found it sooner, they're in Houston. Randy could have gotten a 55 gal drum and brought it closer to you!

Have you called the local distributor to see if anybody has had some, besides your friend?
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Tom,

Here in PA, many of the old 2-stroke owners that I've met use TRC (Texas Refinery Corp) Pro-Spec DD Motor Oil. It is sold through distributors mainly to fleet owners. You can go to their website http://www.texasrefinery.com/ and read up on what they offer. There is probably a distributor in Syracuse. I've been using it for about 30K miles and I'm burning less than I did with other 40W brands- usually about 4 to 4.5 gallons per 10,000 miles compared to 5 or 5.5 previously. I get the oil tested every 10K miles and the TBN has remained intact after use (probably due to low-sulfur fuels more than anything). Other trace metals have been withing or even below spec on wear.
Shane - I went to their website and read up on the pro spec DD oil. I was a little confused as it mentions using a different pro spec oil (40wt) if using fuel with a certain amount of sulphur? I never paid attention to that at the pump, not even sure if its listed? Which one did you use? And if the pro spec DD isn't 40wt, what the heck is it?

PRO-SPECŪ D. D. MOTOR OIL
Meets or exceeds API CF-2 and provides an enhanced level of lubricant performance over the CD-II category for two-stroke cycle engines (Detroit Diesel Series 53, 71, 92, and 149). Single grade oils having less than 1% sulfated ash are preferred and primarily recommended for new Detroit Diesel design changes.
Sulfated ash is related to the oil's additive composition and is significant in predicting lubricants which may cause valve distress under certain operating conditions. Most of the sulfated ash is related to total base number which measures an oil's alkalinity and ability to neutralize acid. As TBN increases, sulfated ash also increases to where lubricants with TBN's above 10 will likely have sulfated ash contents above 1.0%.
It should be understood the use of PRO-SPECŪ D. D. MOTOR OIL is with fuel with less than 0.5% sulphur. For fuels with higher sulphur content, use PRO-SPECŪ SAE 40 with a TBN of 15. The higher TBN is necessary to offset the harmful effects of acids formed during the burning of high sulphur fuels.
High Total Base Numbers are important to control deposits in four-stroke cycle diesel engines and to neutralize the effects of high sulphur fuel in all diesel engines. For two-stroke cycle engines, Detroit Diesel recommends lubricants with a sulfated ash content of 1.0% or less and TBN's between 6 and 10 for engines operating on less than 0.5% sulphur fuel. Starting in 1994, diesel fuel for U.S. highway vehicles was limited to 0.05% sulphur content maximum. The need for high Total Base Numbers for over-the-road Detroit Diesel Engines ceases to be a problem in the U.S.A., providing the customer is buying fuel meeting these specifications. Of course, off highway diesel fuel may still have sulphur content much higher and that's where real care must be exercised in the recommendation of the proper engine oil.
If extreme cold weather (0 to -25°F.) prevents sufficient starter cranking speed with PRO-SPECŪ D. D. MOTOR OIL SAE 40, then the use of PRO-SPECŪ SAE 15W/40 or PRO-SPECŪ SAE 30 will improve startability. These oils must be replaced with PRO-SPECŪ D. D. MOTOR OIL as soon as ambient conditions permit. Exception: Do not use 15W/40 or SAE 30 lubricants in two-stroke cycle marine engines or series 149 engines under any circumstances.
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Starting in 1994, diesel fuel for U.S. highway vehicles was limited to 0.05% sulphur content maximum. The need for high Total Base Numbers for over-the-road Detroit Diesel Engines ceases to be a problem in the U.S.A., providing the customer is buying fuel meeting these specifications.

That's the one section that clears it up. Unless you're buying agricultural diesel (off road use only), you're only getting low sulfur (now ultra low) diesel. You shoulduse the standard oil listed.
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Starting in 1994, diesel fuel for U.S. highway vehicles was limited to 0.05% sulphur content maximum. The need for high Total Base Numbers for over-the-road Detroit Diesel Engines ceases to be a problem in the U.S.A., providing the customer is buying fuel meeting these specifications.

That's the one section that clears it up. Unless you're buying agricultural diesel (off road use only), you're only getting low sulfur (now ultra low) diesel. You shoulduse the standard oil listed.
John - that's good to know. This is what's hard about reading up on stuff on the web, you never know how "current" it is or isn't!

Now, why Delo 100 is no longer listed is another mystery to me....
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