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Icefixr66 05-20-2012 04:33 PM

Another reason to buy a bird!
 
Just got home from a weekend in Michigan. Took my daughter up there for a wedding. When we got there my volt gauges went crazy. Called Coach-net Friday after 5 P.M. Are you safe ? Yes Do you want towed to a facility to sit til Mon? NOT REALLY! Can have a tech call you in the a.m. O.K. Mean time talk to Shane, ( THANKS BROTHER), George Morris and a few others. They all say disconnect the alternators, run the genny to keep the batteries juiced and go home when you are ready . O.K. Sounds like a plan. Call it a night. Coach-net tech calls in the a.m. His best option tow, and sit til Monday. I think I am going to disconnect the alternators and run it home 275 miles. Tech says " You won't make it 50 miles" Why? I have a bird,20kw genny,100 amp charger, and I won't be running any accesories (Common Sense). Well if you do you'll be the first! You need at least 11 volts for the trans ECU or it will shut down. O.K. I am home,gauge never dropped below 13 volts and my coach never faulted. All is well in Wanderland! Any body got any alternators they want to donate?:rolleyes:

Ernest Ekberg 05-20-2012 04:38 PM

Glad you arrived back in the garage-- yours!! Some techs don't know birds.

Blue Emu 05-20-2012 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Ernest Ekberg (Post 161716)
Glad you arrived back in the garage-- yours!! Some techs don't know birds.

And that's being polite!!!

Gene Mehr 05-20-2012 07:46 PM

I think my alternator is acting up as well. Last couple times out after a while my volts start droping at a idle. when in dout I start the geny and power on down the road. Need to install the spare

Ernest Ekberg 05-20-2012 07:48 PM

or- how's ya batteries?

patticake 05-20-2012 08:59 PM

Do those have an exterenal regulator? If so, I remember Rick Archie, changing out his and someone else's at a LSB rally, because of similar problems. Of course, his is a '97. It is the 300a alt.

Icefixr66 05-20-2012 10:29 PM

Yes 1 voltage regulator for both alternators so I am told! hidden in the bedroom closet behind the wall. Oooohhhh Mr. Birtles do you have any voltage regulators for a 450 C13 CAT?

davidmbrady 05-20-2012 10:48 PM

Hi Mike,

I believe you use the Balmar MC-612-Dual voltage regulator. It's a rather hi-tech microprocessor controlled device designed to truly load share across the dual alternators: http://www.balmar.net/2012-PRODUCT-GUIDE-WEB.pdf

Maybe Hisham Amaral will chime in. I know he's been working with the Balmar to customize the programming of his.

HummerH1 05-21-2012 07:51 AM

Ain't it great how this fforum can get you home when the pros can't? Glad you got home Mike

Icefixr66 05-24-2012 01:05 PM

David, The 450 uses the balmar max charge mc-624-ln. I talked to Tom at balmar and he said to specify the LN when ordering as the software is specific to the leece-neville alternators. $440. and change from west marine and 3-4 weeks delivery! OUCH!

davidmbrady 05-24-2012 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Icefixr66 (Post 162310)
David, The 450 uses the balmar max charge mc-624-ln. I talked to Tom at balmar and he said to specify the LN when ordering as the software is specific to the leece-neville alternators. $440. and change from west marine and 3-4 weeks delivery! OUCH!

Of course, 24 volt. It is a nifty little device. I wish I had thought of it! :)

Someday I may upgrade my 50DN regulator to a smart Balmar device. It'd be great to turn the Alternator into a smart 3 stage charger with temperature sensing. I'd be looking at the MC-614, or to save a penny, the ARS-5.

dbmotors 10-15-2015 10:55 AM

I just completed a 2,000 mile trip by running the generator. Lost all engine power while going down the hwy in West Texas in the middle of nowhere. Was able to get safely off the road and stopped let me tell you with the 365 front tires without any power steering turning is a bear. Tried using the rear starting panel to get the engine started and all I got was the starter solenoid to click. Started up the generator and about 5 minutes later tried starting the engine and it fired right up. I have to believe that my voltage regulator is bad and will have to be replaced. Great trip to Nevada and back to West Texas just had to run the generator the entire trip.

al perna 10-15-2015 07:08 PM

Bob,
I do not know if your set up is as mine , but I have had this issue and the repair was to run a ground cable from the alternator , direct to the negative post of the batteries. If you are at the rally this weekend stop over and I will show you what I did . spot #53 in the trees :)


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