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1984Lodge 02-04-2020 01:47 PM

Rear Air Bags, Brakes and more..
 
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So I started tearing into the work on the rear of the bird. Pulled the air bags on the drive and tag.. have the new bags on the drive. I replaced the leveling valves, and dump valves for the drive axle. I am pulling the drive hubs to replace the seals and will probably go ahead and replace the bearings while I am in there. Will be replacing all the brake components, new drums, new shoes, rollers, pins, s-cam bushings and slack adjusters.

Here are some pictures:

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And here’s a video of some of the work:
https://youtu.be/G9OnEPlt5WY

badandy 02-04-2020 03:35 PM

You need to drive up here and change out those valves on mine. Especially the one on the tag.

1984Lodge 02-05-2020 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by badandy (Post 476371)
You need to drive up here and change out those valves on mine. Especially the one on the tag.

I am on my way.. oh wait a minute, it’s cold up there... give it 2or 3 months..:D

They are not too bad to replace... hardest part is reaching them... especially the tag stuff. The drive shaft gets in the way..

I am hoping this will cure my slow to air up the suspension issues..

badandy 02-05-2020 09:29 AM

I'll just drive down and park at your place then :p My biggest problem is that I am not confident enough to jack the thing up here since it's on gravel. It is OK if it stays cold enough to be frozen, but it's got a lot of moisture in it and when it gets above freezing for a day or two it gets soft again. Not ideal.

birds_first 02-05-2020 02:45 PM

My 2 cents, check the nut size on the bags, go buy 2 wrenches of the same size, ACE hardware. Cut one wrench in half, because you can not get a full swing on the nuts to loosen them with a full wrench. Your 2nd wrench heat it up with a torch and bend it about 30 degrees in the middle this will allow you to get to the rear bags without removing the wheel on the drive axle. Once you get the bird jacked up and tools ready it is a hour or so on each bag. I also had to take a wheel grinder to the box end of my bent wrench to get it to fit the nut on the rear. BB drilled the hole off center on my street side mount. Don't know if it was a Monday morning thing or a brainfart in engineering. Be safe and good luck.

ChrisRasman 02-05-2020 04:35 PM

Watch Jeff's video. I already bought the Tite Reach. See how fast he gets those bags out.

1984Lodge 02-05-2020 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by badandy (Post 476427)
I'll just drive down and park at your place then :p My biggest problem is that I am not confident enough to jack the thing up here since it's on gravel. It is OK if it stays cold enough to be frozen, but it's got a lot of moisture in it and when it gets above freezing for a day or two it gets soft again. Not ideal.

Yea weather is nice so far... some rain tomorrow, but the weekend is looking good.. Yea ground is a problem.. I could not pour concrete due to permitting issues. So I put down heavy base of crushed asphalt and then covered with crushed shell so it looks decent.. It is packed down really good and I do not have any issues with setting up on it... well other than its not nice to crawl around on.. I have a sheet of plywood I put down so I am not working on the shell.


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Originally Posted by birds_first (Post 476489)
My 2 cents, check the nut size on the bags, go buy 2 wrenches of the same size, ACE hardware. Cut one wrench in half, because you can not get a full swing on the nuts to loosen them with a full wrench. Your 2nd wrench heat it up with a torch and bend it about 30 degrees in the middle this will allow you to get to the rear bags without removing the wheel on the drive axle. Once you get the bird jacked up and tools ready it is a hour or so on each bag. I also had to take a wheel grinder to the box end of my bent wrench to get it to fit the nut on the rear. BB drilled the hole off center on my street side mount. Don't know if it was a Monday morning thing or a brainfart in engineering. Be safe and good luck.

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Originally Posted by ChrisRasman (Post 476511)
Watch Jeff's video. I already bought the Tite Reach. See how fast he gets those bags out.

Yea the tite reach does a really good job getting to the top bolts on the bags, still have to use a 12 point box end wrench on the bottom bolt. I sped up the removal of the bottom bolt by just breaking it loose and then spinning the air bag instead of turning the wrench. Can reverse that for installation, spin it on until it gets close to tight. Then line up the top two bolts and get them started then finish tightening up the bottom bolt with the box end wrench.
Tite reach makes short work of tightening the top bolts with an impact..

1984Lodge 02-23-2020 09:30 PM

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So I started putting things back together again.. most of my parts came in.. I am waiting on some slack adjusters to finish things up.. I was able to make my drum notched with a angle grinder. It came out pretty good I thought. Will see what the speedometer thinks of it. :D All new bearings, races and seals are on the drive axle hubs. Put in new S cam bushings and seals on the drive axle as well as new brakes shoes.

Here is a video of some of the work:

https://youtu.be/f92pbCf85Wg


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Randy Dupree 02-23-2020 09:35 PM

Nice job on the grinding!!

1984Lodge 02-23-2020 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Randy Dupree (Post 478319)
Nice job on the grinding!!

Thanks, it wasn't too bad to do.. a little bit of a mess when your done.. would have been nice to have my brothers put it on the mill, but they are 3 hours away and I wanted to get it done now..
I did have to shim out the speedometer sensor bracket, as the drums are a bit deeper than the originals, other than that a good fit.


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