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jwasnewski 04-14-2009 09:11 PM

Heat Tape & Tank Heat Mats Warning - FIRE HAZARD
 
I saw a mention about the heat tapes being warm in the Washer Vent post. For you folks still using that aging junk (in my opinion) I will be happy to enlighten you what can happen when they fail. And they will. It ain't pretty.
I have long since removed mine never to be used again. The panel breakers are disabled and blocked. I rely on the Webasto to prevent freezing interior pipes.

White Hat Guy 04-14-2009 09:29 PM

About those heat tapes
 
Leroy:

I've not used mine and would not since there have been several posts about the danger.

I had not considered removing mine and have turned the breakers off and placed a piece of red tape over the breakers.

Should I consider removing mine anyway and remove or disable the breakers as you have done?

Rick Davis 04-14-2009 10:00 PM

Tommy, which breaker would that be?
Randy, are they already disabled or removed from Freenezi?

Randy Dupree 04-14-2009 10:03 PM

the breakers were turned off at one time.

jwasnewski 04-14-2009 10:03 PM

You do not need to remove them. You can cap the wires at the breaker, place read tape as you did so they should not be activated or you can find where they are plugged in and unplug them. Mine were plugged in under the kitchen sink on the outer wall and way back under the bed. There are warning labels on this **** that states do not cross the lines. Typically they are encased in the insulation around the water pipes and you cannot see them to inspect. If someone has previously chased a problem and moved them around, all **** can break loose.
In my case, in my early ownership I had no idea they were there, did not pay attention to the breakers and one day at Talledaga in the infield all my water started pouring out the bays under the bus. The lines had crossed resulting a hole being burned in the water line next to the bed. I am thankful that the water pump was on other wise the bus would have been set on fire. The breakers did not pop. **** of a deal if you are asleep. It was smokin' inside. Of course when I finally found the leak I grabbed hold of the lines. I did not get hurt but quickly determined I should have a look at the breaker box. I scrounged up some hose to temporarily repair the leak, threw all the carpet in the bus out the window on to the ground, borrowed a fan from the neighbors and dried out the bus for three days by running the generator non stop. Tack strips are not good on the feet. Water in the bays is not fun either. Had to buy water to get through with the races. I drank all the beer.
The good part. My crazy neighbor friend got me a lot of beads. They are still hanging on the mirror.

White Hat Guy 04-15-2009 05:38 AM

About those heat tapes
 
Rick:

Its been a while since I looked in my breaker box in the left corner of the bedroom, looking back. I believe the breakers are labled "freeze protector". I'll go by the bird this morning and check for sure. I think mine are plugged in under the sink and under the bed as well.

I have not unplugged them, but I am going to ASAP.

isp2952 04-15-2009 10:25 AM

Wow guys!! You just sent chills up my spine with this stuff. I just learned something and hope I get home in time to turn the **** things off!! I had no idea of the danger. The only danger I was aware of was that you can't have them on when the pipes are empty. I guess they shouldn't be on at all. I will unplug them under the sink and turn off the breaker's too. Thanks for the warning. That's the reason I love this forum. Somebody read what I posted and warned me of the danger.

bwinter1946 04-15-2009 10:52 AM

Do BMC's have heat tapes?

I have not seen a breaker called: freeze protector

Thanks,

Rose Mary 04-15-2009 10:58 AM

Hi group
I had a scary thing happen with the heat plugs. One day last fall had a huge puff of smoke in the galley. Thought the panel had fried or something as I lost power...found a breaker tripped. Was afraid to turn it back on.
checked everything, outside lines to main hookup etc. could find nothing wrong with set up. Tried the breaker again and in a couple seconds more smoke and it tripped again. Panic....
It turned out it was the heat tape near the frig (had fried in two. Accessible thru the outside frig opening...with long arms it could be unplugged. I unplugged everyone of those I could find.
So thankful it was not something else, like the frig or panel in the galley...
by the way in our coach they are blue (heat cable) and not a separate breaker
these forums are great.

Rose Mary
JP'S White Bird
82 FC 35

jwasnewski 04-15-2009 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bwinter1946 (Post 17856)
Do BMC's have heat tapes?

I have not seen a breaker called: freeze protector

Thanks,

I could not tell you for sure. Most every Wanderlodge has either heat tape or heat strips(copper looking cables) or both. If there are no breakers they may not be installed. The heat cables are Easy Heat. Typically, you could slice open a portion of the water pipe insulation under the bed and look for woven copper wire cables. That would be the junk.
http://www.easyheat.com/


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