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Double R 11-08-2019 07:44 PM

Engine will not crank
 
Greeting and thanks in advance for any help offered!

Still a newbie (1 year and about 2000 miles logged)

Replaced engine batteries yesterday, and after replacing tried to start and nothing. To be more specific I get power when key is turned and colts look good but when I turn switch no click click or start. Just flat. Batteries tested and are good. A/t switch is in correct position and all electronic switch is on. Not sure if something may need to be reset after battery installation. I am hoping it’s not the starter. Could it be the ignition switch

1999 wb lxi. DD series 60

Thanks again

bryanaltier 11-08-2019 08:09 PM

Sounds like a bad connection on a battery post.

Double R 11-08-2019 08:15 PM

I actually removed and re Insatlled but I guess it could be a bad cable

jcs707 11-08-2019 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Double R (Post 469323)
Greeting and thanks in advance for any help offered!

Still a newbie (1 year and about 2000 miles logged)

Replaced engine batteries yesterday, and after replacing tried to start and nothing. To be more specific I get power when key is turned and colts look good but when I turn switch no click click or start. Just flat. Batteries tested and are good. A/t switch is in correct position and all electronic switch is on. Not sure if something may need to be reset after battery installation. I am hoping it’s not the starter. Could it be the ignition switch

1999 wb lxi. DD series 60

Thanks again

Rear start switch? Tranny in Neutral?

Double R 11-08-2019 08:42 PM

It’s in neutral. And I did actually try to start from rear but nothing

speeddixon 11-08-2019 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Double R (Post 469328)
It’s in neutral. And I did actually try to start from rear but nothing

Try the AT switch in the other direction. If you can’t find the problem, I am in Hilton Head Island and can come over next weekend . Do you have a spot for us to park in?

Left a wire off when replacing batteries? Starter solenoid on the inside frame rail?

Chief607 11-08-2019 10:34 PM

You should have a auxiliary battery rocker switch on the right hand side. what happens if you hold that switch down and try to turn it over

Double R 11-08-2019 11:32 PM

Sean.
Thanks a million for the gracious offer. I am hoping to have it fixed need weekend for a out of town drag race. Cars is of course not buses. Will keep everyone updated

Double R 11-08-2019 11:34 PM

John
I haven’t noticed a rocker switch before. And in the last couple of days have spent many hours in the battery compartment. Will eyeball again first thing in the am.

Double R 11-08-2019 11:35 PM

You mean rocker switch on dash??? I did try that

Siam Express 11-09-2019 12:03 AM

Have you tried firing up the generator and then use the auxiliary battery and try to start it

Chief607 11-09-2019 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Double R (Post 469337)
You mean rocker switch on dash??? I did try that

yes Im sorry I was referring to the rocker on the dash

max hendrix 11-09-2019 02:00 AM

Battery Disconnect or Master switch off ??? The BMC I used to own had both of those. I’m not sure if yours has those or not..


Always check and recheck the last things you worked on.

Max.

atckip 11-09-2019 08:28 AM

If it was starting before the battery change, It has to be something you reinstalled incorrectly....easy to do with wiring...recheck

jcs707 11-09-2019 08:58 AM

if you've checked and re-checked all the simple stuff, and confirmed the cabling, switch positions, ...etc. ... you can begin looking at the inputs to the neutral start relay. Voltage readings on the various pins of K24 will tell you an awful lot about what's going on with the entire start circuit.

But don't dig into that until you've confirmed the simple stuff.

Randy Dupree 11-09-2019 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Double R (Post 469323)
Greeting and thanks in advance for any help offered!

Still a newbie (1 year and about 2000 miles logged)

Replaced engine batteries yesterday, and after replacing tried to start and nothing. To be more specific I get power when key is turned and colts look good but when I turn switch no click click or start. Just flat. Batteries tested and are good. A/t switch is in correct position and all electronic switch is on. Not sure if something may need to be reset after battery installation. I am hoping it’s not the starter. Could it be the ignition switch

1999 wb lxi. DD series 60

Thanks again


Was everything normal BEFORE replacing the batteries?
Like,did it start and run and all that?
Were the old batteries no good?
we need more info.

bubblerboy64 11-09-2019 01:20 PM

I bought batteries one time and three out of six were bad. I think they sat over winter and froze before they sold. Only way I figured was to load test. Returned the batteries to Walmart installed. Fired off like always. Admittedly unlikely but if you have tried everything else. Could be the starter . Sounds like all else has been checked

bubblerboy64 11-09-2019 01:30 PM

Just a little more on this. What was happening was I’d run the generator and checked the voltage at the batteries and they would read good but as soon as I would attempt to start the voltage would drop drastically with just one try. The batteries were not charging . You have to have AMPS not just volts So that’s why you need to load test

Double R 11-09-2019 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by max hendrix (Post 469341)
Battery Disconnect or Master switch off ??? The BMC I used to own had both of those. I’m not sure if yours has those or not..


Always check and recheck the last things you worked on.

Max.

Both are one

Double R 11-09-2019 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randy Dupree (Post 469351)
Was everything normal BEFORE replacing the batteries?
Like,did it start and run and all that?
Were the old batteries no good?
we need more info.

Old batteris where no good
Everything was running fine before replacement
Replaced and re installed. And still nothing

Captain Fred 11-09-2019 02:59 PM

if it started before you replaced the batteries and won't start after then you need to recheck every wire that you disconnected or may have been close by and you could have disturbed by accident. SOMETHING happened during the process of changing the batteries.
If it didn't start before and you thought it was because of bad batteries then you haven't solved the non starting issue by replacing the batteries and more testing needs to be done.

Randy Dupree 11-09-2019 03:33 PM

Find the cable you left off,tucked behind something or it has fallen behind something.
I have done it before,no need to be embarrassed!

Captain Fred 11-09-2019 03:45 PM

I agree with Randy. Why do you think we lean toward a cable being left off ? Most of us have already done that and driven ourselves crazy trying to figure out what could possibly be wrong.

bubblerboy64 11-09-2019 03:51 PM

Has it been determined if the coach was starting before the batteries were replaced? Seems the owner has determined the batteries are the route of the problem and seems others are suspecting otherwise?

I think we’ve all had similar at one time or another . I remember once it was a slightly bad connection of one of the leads to the starter. About a 1/8 turn on the stud was what it took. Probably the ground but I don’t recall

Be nice to know if he had a no start issue before switching out the batteries.

Randy Dupree 11-09-2019 05:13 PM

I was involved with another coach with a hard start problem today,i will post on a new thread.

Double R 11-10-2019 06:39 PM

Well finally found the problem When installing the new batteries I pushed a wire on the starter solenoid and it touched the frame. And I assume grounded the starter. After pulling the wire forward viola cranks right up.
Thanks to all that contributed. Still learning and this was a small mistake that took all weekend to figure out. But thankful. I a, now prepared for next weekend trip

Thanks again to all

Harold,Cat&Sam 11-10-2019 06:50 PM

Happy to hear you found the problem :) .

Captain Fred 11-10-2019 07:20 PM

Glad you are up and running. Been there, done that.


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