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Default Using <TAB> or <SPACES> to format message?

I've tried at times to format my post using <tab> or <space> but the formatting always is demolished by the time my post shows up n the forum.

Is there a special character that the forums recognize as extra intentional space, not to be "fixed"?

Two cases where it would be useful --

1.) ASCII art (see #7, http://www.wanderlodgeownersgroup.co...read.php?t=970 )

2.) Tables. I formatted some tabular data in the "SP coolant schematic" thread recently. I gave it extra spaces to create three columns, here's how it came out)

ON (V) 12.85(2-wire plug) 10.38 (VLV SIG)
OFF (V) 2.54 " .011 "

I imagine the <tab> and <spaces> are being stripped out according to a default rule in the vBulletin configuration. Stripping them out helps to prevent mischief, I'd guess.

But we're grown ups () on the WOG

Would you pass this along to Markttu ? It is an administrator task, but I don't really expect anyone but the programmer to be familiar with the bazillions of config options for vBulletin.

Thanks for listening, and whatever comes of this, my thanks for all that you and the entire WOG do to keep it working hard.

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I've tried at times to format my post using <tab> or <space> but the formatting always is demolished by the time my post shows up n the forum.

Is there a special character that the forums recognize as extra intentional space, not to be "fixed"?

Two cases where it would be useful --

1.) ASCII art (see #7, http://www.wanderlodgeownersgroup.co...read.php?t=970 )

2.) Tables. I formatted some tabular data in the "SP coolant schematic" thread recently. I gave it extra spaces to create three columns, here's how it came out)

ON (V) 12.85(2-wire plug) 10.38 (VLV SIG)
OFF (V) 2.54 " .011 "

I imagine the <tab> and <spaces> are being stripped out according to a default rule in the vBulletin configuration. Stripping them out helps to prevent mischief, I'd guess.

But we're grown ups () on the WOG

Would you pass this along to Markttu ? It is an administrator task, but I don't really expect anyone but the programmer to be familiar with the bazillions of config options for vBulletin.

Thanks for listening, and whatever comes of this, my thanks for all that you and the entire WOG do to keep it working hard.

--Ned

That would be nice if it was true for everyone, try sitting in my chair for a while !!

Is what you are trying to do considered using HTML code ?
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That would be nice if it was true for everyone, try sitting in my chair for a while !!

Is what you are trying to do considered using HTML code ?


Well, hmmm.

It *might* be. Sort of like putting a non-breaking space into web page text using <nbsp>--but I don't know if the editor used in vBulletin makes any provision for that. Under the cover, it might be treating all messages as HTML text? But that isn't what I want to do, I just want to use the <TAB> key or multiple <SPACE> keys like on a typewriter, to push text farther to the right.
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Well, hmmm.

It *might* be. Sort of like putting a non-breaking space into web page text using <nbsp>--but I don't know if the editor used in vBulletin makes any provision for that. Under the cover, it might be treating all messages as HTML text? But that isn't what I want to do, I just want to use the <TAB> key or multiple <SPACE> keys like on a typewriter, to push text farther to the right.

I don't think that it does, bit I'll pass it on to Mark.
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vBulletin renders everything as HTML. In part it makes sense as when one strays from standard HTML on the web it breaks things for lots of end users. Classic example is those who need a little help with magnifying the text to read it. They may have their browser set to increase text sizes +1 or +2 font sizes which really only works right with HTML.

At any rate the good folks at VB know that sometimes text needs to be formatted a specific way to make any sense. In fact its important to them being code guys that there be a way to make text "pretty" with all the spacing as the author originally intended it. To force rendering to a fixed width font you use the code tag. Basically just like the quote tag the code tag lets you set aside a block of text as "special."

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Here is an example of "code" text.
  Notice that I'm able to force two spaces at the beginning of this line.
     Now notice I can f  o  r  c  e          l    o    t     s     o    f   spaces where I want them.
Be careful though, because when you use the code tag no wrapping will occur and the text will get a horizontal scroller if you forget to press enter/return or just make one big long run-on line of text like this one is.

So to use the "code" tag just place [ c o d e ] without the spaces at the 
begining of the text you want to have in a fixed width font and place 
[ / c o d e ] at the end, again without the spaces.

Notice in that last paragraph I had to force the two line breaks or it would 
have just run off to the right again.
Hope this helps!
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left side

right side

middle


Code:
bold      not bold      italized       underlined     
10 space here -->
Code:
         *
15 space here -->
Code:
              *
20 space here -->
Code:
                   *
25 space here -->
Code:
                        *


Well.. I DO see some possibilities here.

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Code:
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         could 
             be 
                fun,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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Thumbs up Formatting with the "Code tag"

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vBulletin renders everything as HTML. In part it makes sense as when one strays from standard HTML on the web it breaks things for lots of end users. Classic example is those who need a little help with magnifying the text to read it. They may have their browser set to increase text sizes +1 or +2 font sizes which really only works right with HTML.

To force rendering to a fixed width font you use the code tag. Basically just like the quote tag the code tag lets you set aside a block of text as "special."
chr$(9)Got it! Think you.

Uh, nope.

Lemme get this straight. This is an HTML interpreter, not a VB compiler. No point brushing up on VB syntax, I can only use tags from a/the HTML DTD. Maybe I can use any valid HTML tag? :->

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           Got it with spaces.  Thank you. Awesomeness! Thanks John and Mark
Now the WOG is all groan up.

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Still seem to have some alignment issue when pasting from Excel. hmmm

Code:
MFG	Model	    HP	RPM	       L	W	H	Lbs
							

Cat	  3304BNA  100	2200	60	35	42	1835
Cat	  3304BT	  190	2200	62	35	42	1835
Cat	  3208NA	  210	2800	58	38	36	2080
Cat	  3116T	  250	2800	56	32	34	1500
Cat	  33068BT	  280	2200	76	37	42	2470
Cat	  3208T	  320	2800	59	37	37	2080
Cat	  3116TA	  350	2800	59	32	34	1500
Cat	  3306BTA	  350	2200	77	37	42	2470
Cat	  33068BTA 355	2200	77	37	42	2470
Cat	  3406BT	  402	2100	85	42	49	3240
Cat	  3208TA	  425	2800	59	37	37	2080
Cat	  3406BTA	  540	2100	85	42	49	3240
Cat	  3412T	  540	1800	100	55	54	5420
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Still seem to have some alignment issue when pasting from Excel. hmmm

Code:
MFG    Model        HP    RPM           L    W    H    Lbs
                            

Cat      3304BNA  100    2200    60    35    42    1835
Cat      3304BT      190    2200    62    35    42    1835
Cat      3208NA      210    2800    58    38    36    2080
Cat      3116T      250    2800    56    32    34    1500
Cat      33068BT      280    2200    76    37    42    2470
Cat      3208T      320    2800    59    37    37    2080
Cat      3116TA      350    2800    59    32    34    1500
Cat      3306BTA      350    2200    77    37    42    2470
Cat      33068BTA 355    2200    77    37    42    2470
Cat      3406BT      402    2100    85    42    49    3240
Cat      3208TA      425    2800    59    37    37    2080
Cat      3406BTA      540    2100    85    42    49    3240
Cat      3412T      540    1800    100    55    54    5420
Looks like column data isn't consistently formatted left or right. But yer right, it has got potential
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