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Old 01-27-2009
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Default Oil bath air filter - generator

I figured while I was doing an overhaul on the generator, I'd pull the air filter.

I'm not acquainted with oil bath filters.

Is there anything to change? It sure doesn't look like it.
What should I do while it's out?

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I don't know about your configuration.
On the old Nash my dad owned, pull the screen element, wash it with mineral spirits, coat it with oil, place some oil in the canister and put the lid on.
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GPSGary,

All you do is drain the oil out of the mesh, as much as you can. Then wash the mesh with your favorite degreaser and let it dry. The re-oil with any basic oil you have on hand. You'll want to try and coat the mesh as much as you can when re-oiling. Put some excess oil in the bottom of the unit, where the mesh can soak or wick it up and put it back on the genny. They work quite well. That's where the whole K&N thing got it's start. Nothing but an updated version of an oil bath filter.
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That's where the whole K&N thing got it's start. Nothing but an updated version of an oil bath filter.
Hi John, I have a K&N filter on my Jeep, K& N says to wash the cotton fiber filter with a non-sudsing detergent. But their installation instruction and their tech support will not advise on an alternative oil. They will only recommend their own product. Does anyone know what can be used to re- lubricate a K& N filter.
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I use Marvles Mystery Oil on our Harley filters 40,00 miles no issues yet.
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Ed,
Thanks for the quick response, I was very disappointed with K&N's response. It was bla,bla,,bla, the cotton fiber will deteriorate,,bla,bla. it will get sucked into the intake, then more bla,bla,bla, the alternative oil will be too heavy and the engine will not get adequate air. Explainations of warranty, & the life of the product, etc. more blabla?????
I could not get a simple answer, to the question, " What alternative oil or lubricant can be used".... A K&N Company policy issue & more bla,bla,bla, Not a good way to handle a customer.
Sorry to be Grumby tonight
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I figured while I was doing an overhaul on the generator, I'd pull the air filter.

I'm not acquainted with oil bath filters.

Is there anything to change? It sure doesn't look like it.
What should I do while it's out?

Regards,
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Gary,

I just added this to;
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i use 1/3 stp and 2/3 trans fluid......

always worked on bikes yrs ago and i bet it still does on the kn and I used straight 30 w on the oil baths.......remember that the oil bath will slosh!!! so fill it to the line and not too much........
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If your filter is similiar to the one John has pictured there is no filter, no wick, just a screen. Every tractor I've had uses this air cleaning principal.

The easy fix is to dump the oil, clean the cup, then replace the oil, I replace with what goes in the engine.

Do not overfill, only to the line on the cup.

The more difficult fix is to unbolt the cleaner, clean the screen. As you can see the screen is not replacable and inside the cannister. There is no way to flush through the screen.

I have used gas, Kerosene, and diesel to clean. I have soaked them for several hours to loosen the crud held to the screen. Amazing how much comes out that has attached itself to the screen. Just slosh the container imersed in the cleaner, set it vertical to drain out your solvent.

Now you understand how a disposable society found an alternate to an effictive way to clean air, it was messy, and it was time consuming to do it right.
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Engine oil is quite heavy, so with a K&N filter it probably is too heavy for it to support. I would use ATF, but sparingly. I've used one of their filters in the past with their oil. It worked okay, but for the cost and effort it's easier to just change a paper one. I'm also concerned about the size of the pores in a K&N. They're quite large, leading me to believe it won't filter the small stuff. I'd really like to find somebody with one of the K&N demo units and dump some dust from my hepa air filter on it. Dump some on the paper and see what happens and compare to the standard paper filter they compare to. You always see the little pingpong ball rising, but if that's on a dry (no oil) filter, than it won't filter like an oiled one. Add the oil and then watch what happens. Anyway, for those using them you want a light weight oil, like ATF or the like. It also doesn't take much. I used an eye dropper to run the vanes with oil and let it sit overnight. There was always some draining off the next morning.
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