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Towbars, Hitches and Braking Systems for your Toads, etc. Questions, concerns, or suggestions regarding what equipment to use to tow your Toad with are discussed here.

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Old 11-14-2011
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We're looking to get a new toad to replace the Jeep Cherokee that we had. It kept breaking down so we sold it earlier this year.

We used the M & G system on it and that worked pretty good, but Im looking for something that isnt tied to one car. Found a reference to this that I havent seen before.

http://www.readybrake.com/brake-systems.html

Anyone used it or have any feedback?


Thanks, Joe


BTW, if anyone need a M&G for a Jeep let me know, I'll sell it for the core charge...
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Joe,, we went through the same thought process while finding a brake system.
I have a friend with the cable system, and it seems he is always having trouble with the cable part, stretching or braking.
Buddy brake type are a similar surge type, but having to install each trip and remove it to use the car was not what we wanted.
We wanted one that would be most effective, easy to use, and transfer to the next tow vehicle we get. We chose the SMI, Air force One.
http://smibrake.com/air-force-one.html

This met all our criteria and then some. It is truly a progressive braking system, no adjusting, fully automatic and it does not comprise the coach air brakes in any way.
Installation is $400, but it is easy to do and comes with a video.

We have several friends who have bought this system, and I have not hear a complaint.
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We're looking to get a new toad to replace the Jeep Cherokee that we had. It kept breaking down so we sold it earlier this year.

We used the M & G system on it and that worked pretty good, but Im looking for something that isnt tied to one car. Found a reference to this that I havent seen before.

http://www.readybrake.com/brake-systems.html

Anyone used it or have any feedback?


Thanks, Joe


BTW, if anyone need a M&G for a Jeep let me know, I'll sell it for the core charge...
I'll take the M&G,maybe it will fit my Liberty.
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I also use the SMI system. It is a dedicated system to one vehicle though.

The three problems I see with the Ready Brake are 1) there is no vacuum provided to the power brakes making the braking system unresponsive, 2) steep downhills may cause the brakes to be over-driven due to the added force of gravity or in panic stops, and 3) the aforementioned issue with cable tension.

A question you need to answer is if you really want brakes or are doing it for show (to please the legal requirement). With my 50,000 lb bird, I really don't need the brakes on the Wrangler, but I need to be legal in all states. Despite this, I opted for a true performance braking system like the SMI.

What about the Brake Buddy system? It's portable and effective from what I hear. You can usually find good used ones on Craigslist too.
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I have the ready brake system. I have it adjusted loose so it really doesn't do more then light the brake lights. My car is extremely light and I really don't need it. I like the emergency break away system better then the rest of it.

I'd recommend it for staying legal. If you are towing a heavier toad I'd go another direction.

The system has to be adjust just right to work correctly and I found that to be extremely difficult if not impossible to get right. Have it loose it doesn't work. Have it just a little too tight and it will drag the brakes on the car.
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I'm with John. I don't need my 4,000 lb toad trying to stop my 34,000 bird. We use a similar cable system adjusted so it almost works and is in place to cover us from the lawyers. Unless you have locked up the brakes and slid the tires, you haven't needed a toad brake anyway.

If you have a 12,000 lb class C and tow a 6,000 lb truck, you need a brake on the toad. With a Bird, you only need a toad brake to keep the lawyers off your back. Just my opinion.
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I dunno, M&G is so sweet can't imagine a better working toad brake. Price is very competetive too. Had one of those Blue OX robo brake boxes, worked OK until it got out of a adjustment between the seat and pedal, cooked the brakes on the toad. Anything that works like a surge brake seems like a major step back. And you guys that say you ' don't really need toad brakes' might be fooling your selves. No RV has excess brake capacity.
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Your right about that Mike. They don't stop on a dime. In my situation with an under 3000 lb car and a 36,000 bus I'll am taking the odds that it wouldn't make a SIGNIFICANT difference getting stopped. I admit that is based on an assumption.
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Something I learned in the search process that kind surprised me.
Any brake system that presses on the brake pedel, will have lots more force with the first few pushes because the vacuum chamber is loaded. Often sliding the tire the first time if you do not take the time to bleed the vacuum with a few pumps. The new brake buddy does this automatically. The old ones did not. The cable system would be the same.
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Something I learned in the search process that kind surprised me.
Any brake system that presses on the brake pedel, will have lots more force with the first few pushes because the vacuum chamber is loaded. Often sliding the tire the first time if you do not take the time to bleed the vacuum with a few pumps. The new brake buddy does this automatically. The old ones did not. The cable system would be the same.
Mallie,
It doesn't seem to me this would be the case with the cable system as the power brake booster is dormant when the toad is not running with this type of device. The bigger issue (if it's an issue at all) is whether the brakes can be effective at all with the booster not functioning.
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