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Default Help!! Retract broken generator drawer ram?

My drawer is stuck open--the ram motor turns but no motion, either direction. I'm on the road, east of Missoula in a small town. I chained the drawer to the frame, no slack in chain. So i guess i can drive it for help. I'd really like to get the drawer back in, how can i do this?

I have a couple of 12v rams i use for a bed lift, i think they're rated at 200lbs, trying to scheme a way to use them. Otherwise, is there a technique to retract this broken ram? sounds like gear stripped?

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Default Help!! Retract broken generator drawer ram?

Hi Ned,

I do not know if this will help or not. I have been working on my SP36 generator, and it is the same as yours.

I noticed when I had the pin removed from the generator drawer that the arm will retract by spinning inward. You might try removing the pin, and manually turning the ram to see if you can get it to retract.

Then you should be able to push the drawer shut and secure it as a temporary solution.

One caution, I learned from experience that the ram and the exhaust system work as a balance to shut the drawer. If you get to this point, try not to push the drawer in a crocked fashion. Try to keep it as straight as you can.

I hope this helps.

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Hi Ned,

Sorry, not crocked, but crooked.

Computers are ruining the ability of one to spell correctly.

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Nose wet Alan i cawnt speel any-weigh

Thank you very much for your timely help, i was getting my jaw set for road warrior style and backtracking to Missoula to find a shop with forklift.

I'll post a pic of my figuredhead Onan chained to the front of coach when i figure out how.

ok, here they are.
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Hi Ned,

I do not know if this will help or not. I have been working on my SP36 generator, and it is the same as yours.

I noticed when I had the pin removed from the generator drawer that the arm will retract by spinning inward. You might try removing the pin, and manually turning the ram to see if you can get it to retract.

Then you should be able to push the drawer shut and secure it as a temporary solution.

One caution, I learned from experience that the ram and the exhaust system work as a balance to shut the drawer. If you get to this point, try not to push the drawer in a crocked fashion. Try to keep it as straight as you can.

I hope this helps.

Alan
Oh yes ! Pull the pin out and deflect the ram and the drawer went in. Haha i really leaned into it, and it rolled very nicely. I say deflect because my ram didnt go in no matter the turns or pressure i exerted on it. Two 9/16ths nut/bolts, and two snips of the 12v power wires, and the ram was out of the way on the ground. The drawer may have gotten cocked, i couldnt roll it all the way in, about 6"" shy. I rechained it, and am now continuing on my way east.

Thanks very much Alan, the problem became much less once it had eyebrows
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"headed east". Where to? I am in SW ND. If I can be of any assistance.
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Hi Ned,

Good to hear that you found a temporary solution. I am impressed that you had the chains with you, or did you have to go get them?

Let me know what you find out about the ram. Given the weight of the drawer with the generator, I wonder how long they will last. It would seem as though there is a lot of force needed to move the drawer in and out. If you find the failure, this will help me keep a watch on what could cause a problem.

Keep us abreast of your progress.

Safe travels,

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Hey Melvin--

Thank you for that, and no doubt you've got equipment to horse a gen drawer around. Anyway I hustled across South Dakota on route to Virginia. Uneventful trip from Missoula on, mechanically speaking. But Your offer I appreciated
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Well well the ram gearbox isn't very complicated but Ive run into a snag. I want to see what went wrong with the ram, so Im trying to dismanle it.

The ram is held to the gearbox by a circlip that is in a tight spot. I have tried two circlip tools: a pin-type tool, and a spreader designed for flat-end clips. No joy. You can see in the attaced pics that the clip sits inside a small collar. So it is limited in how wide I can spread it, it won't spread wide enough to get a small screwdriver under or behind the clip, let alone spreading it wide enough to remove normally.

Anyone know a trick or tool for this situation?
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I have used some heavy duty picks to pull them apart before. I don't think dental picks would be strong enough, but the ones I have are made by Stanley and are considerably stronger than the hobby type picks. Just put one pick into one hole and another pick in the other hole and pull them apart. That will also allow you to lift up once you get it out far enough. I should have said these are curved picks not straight, so you kind of "hook" the ends of the clip.
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