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Old 08-04-2008
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My 03 LX 40 needs new house batteries The coach has D4 high dollar Batteries. I am mechanically inclined so I don't mine checking the cheep batteries. What batteries do you use????? And why.
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My 03 LX 40 needs new house batteries The coach has D4 high dollar Batteries. I am mechanically inclined so I don't mine checking the cheep batteries. What batteries do you use????? And why.
After reading the attached file I switch from 12V to 6V batteries

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My 03 LX 40 needs new house batteries The coach has D4 high dollar Batteries. I am mechanically inclined so I don't mine checking the cheep batteries. What batteries do you use????? And why.
Bob,

Due to the limitations of the house batteries storage area on my '82FC35RB 'Bird, I chose to use 8 Trojan T-105 6 volt golf cart batteries, as I do a lot of dry camping at races like at Maxton, where we don't have electrical hookups and I'm a power hog when it comes to using a lot of my equipment that is powered by my house batteries, either directly or through the inverter. They have been in there since 2004 and they are still performing great.


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Randy has in my opinion the best setup for house batteries he uses L-16 batteries and I would use them if I had the room, see old forum post at; http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/.../message/17742

Although they are expensive they will last for a lot longer and I believe that you have the same amount of room that he has in his 'Bird for those size of batteries.
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I use ten 6volt gulf cart batteries from sam's club.John What do you for a charger?
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I use ten 6volt gulf cart batteries from sam's club.John What do you for a charger?
I have a Inteli-Power 9200 Series 80 Amp Converter/ Charger made by PROGRESSIVE DYNAMICS, INC. I purchased it from Tweetys.com http://www.tweetys.com/index.asp?Pag...OD&ProdID=7047
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Bob,

I'm sure there is a savings by going to either many multiple 6v batteries or 12v wet cell, lead acid batteries, but I would recommend the high priced spread and use the AGM 8Ds or at least gel cell 8Ds.

From your boating experience, you know about deep cycle batteries, so no lecture here on that, BUT....

Using my own personal experience as the barometer for my reply (does this effectively cover my opinionated ***?); I have never been happier with batteries than I have been with the Lifeline AGMs. In over 50 years of cruising boating and/or RVing, being free of battery maintenance is worth the price to me. When dry camping, no gennie, no A/C, reasonable use of lights, appliances and TV, the 6 house batteries keep me fine for close to 24 hrs before the auto start kicks in, and 2 hrs to 4 hrs a day takes care of the charge.

Did I mention NO MAINTENANCE
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My coach uses 6 model 4D house batteries. I believe that the 04 requires 8 or more of these same size batteries. The 4D is a 12 volt, 210 amp-hour battery. So multiply out the amp requirement (e.g. in my case 6 x 210 = 1260 amp hours at 12 volts). Now, look at the various alternatives, such as Trojan T-105 (or T-125) 6 volt batteries and various golf cart batteries. Calculate how many you'll need to replace the amp-hours at 12 volts available from the type 4Ds. Then consider the space you have to fit them in -- and how you'll wire 'em up.

If your coach is like mine, the alternatives will probably deliver fewer amp-hours for the space they take up ... and you won't have the space for as many batteries as you need to have that capacity.

The batteries in my coach, when I purchased it, were Deka AGMs. They had apparently been mistreated during the 6 months the coach was on various used RV lots as they would not hold a charge for a reasonable length of time. I replaced them with FullRiver (brand) model 4D, AGM batteries from DC Battery Specialists http://www.dcbattery.com . They were expensive (but the price included shipping). I also discovered that they were slightly bigger in physical size than the DEKA batteries -- so I had to modify the battery trays to hold them. (That was somewhat of a hassle, but I was saved by a friend with a welding rig...)
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I switched to AGM batteries and like others am very pleased with the performance and really like not having any maintenance.
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Hey John,
I looked over the specs. Does this charger offer float? I'm currently looking at Xantrex TC-40+ & Iota DLS-75. I have an Iota DLS-75 in one coach and have been happy with it but it does not offer float. I see they offer an adapter (IQ4) to turn it into a smart charger but wonder how well that works? Seems your find is a better bang-for-buck if it does have 3 stages.
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Hey John,
I looked over the specs. Does this charger offer float? I'm currently looking at Xantrex TC-40+ & Iota DLS-75. I have an Iota DLS-75 in one coach and have been happy with it but it does not offer float. I see they offer an adapter (IQ4) to turn it into a smart charger but wonder how well that works? Seems your find is a better bang-for-buck if it does have 3 stages.
Mine came with the Charge Wizard, http://www.progressivedyn.com/prod_d...ge_wizard.html, whether that is what you are referring to as a float or a trickle charge, I can't say, it is down in the compartment with the converter charger, so I never get to see what position it is in, I just check the voltmeter that I installed directly above my microwave to see what condition the batteries are in.

I full time so it is used all of the time unless I'm dry camping. I had an IOTA like you have but when it went bad and was out of warranty by a few months, IOTA would not offer any repair method for it as it was out of warranty, nor would they offer any assistance with wiring diagrams or part numbers as I had a friend that would attempt to repair it just like he did my battery boilers and my Red-I-Line, they wanted to just sell a new one to me. The Intella Power has been in there twice as long as the IOTA was and it seems to be working fine, just don't let Murphy know that I told everybody that
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