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Hello all,

I have a 2009 Honda Element AWD with Automatic Transmission that I'm considering using as a TOAD. The owners manual says it can't be flat towed. However, I'm seen some bits about towing the element here and there about the net.

Does anyone here use or know anyone that is using an Element for a toad? If so, what modifications needed to be done and/or what is the normal checklist prior to towing?

Is there a particular make/model vehicle the seems to be the preferred toad?

Sorry if this is posted in the wrong place.

Thanks,
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Dan, I've seen a lot of Hondas being towed. Best I can tell many of the Hondas can be towed all four down even with an automatic transmission. My 2001 CVR is automatic and I have towed it all over the country, probably in excess of 40 thousand miles. You have a procedure prior to towing as set out in your owner's manual. Might check your manual and see or one of the motorhome publications (FMCA I believe) has a towing guide listing all the automobiles and trucks.
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I checked the OM...it says my Element can't be towed "flat". I read somewhere on-line that up to 2008, you were able to flat tow an Element. But, some people weren't following the protocol, ruined their tranny and sued Honda over it. So, they no longer support it. The other thread I read said that in 2009, the transmission changed and that's why they no longer support flat towing. Perhaps the truth is grounded in both those threads, who knows. I'm just wondering of the company (I can't remember the name) that makes transmission pumps has a unit for my car.

That brings another question, anyone use a transmission pump on their toad?
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I did find this while searching the web...perhaps I can tow it OK after all.

http://www.remcotowing.com/vehicles

They say no modification necessary for the element. Is Remco a trusted name in towing?
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I did find this while searching the web...perhaps I can tow it OK after all.

http://www.remcotowing.com/vehicles

They say no modification necessary for the element. Is Remco a trusted name in towing?
Remco is trusted, but they still require you to verify their information. There could be mid year changes, etc. Remco makes oil pumps for some auto transmissions and drive shaft disconnectors for others. Some systems are just not towable 4-down.
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We use a pump on our Toyota Camry and have towed over 40,000 miles with little trouble.
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I did find this while searching the web...perhaps I can tow it OK after all.

http://www.remcotowing.com/vehicles

They say no modification necessary for the element. Is Remco a trusted name in towing?
I followed Remco info and happily flat tow a 2001 Honda Odyssey.
No troubles at all, we use the Blue Ox set up.
Just make sure you cycle the gears after hooking up and you are ready to go!
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Honda & Acura droppped several vehicles from flat towing because people were not following their instructions. In 05 you could tow the Acura MDX but 06 you could not, they are the same vehicle with no changes. I would assume that is the same for the Element. Check with Remco, you may be able to tow with a transmission pump. If your car is out of warrenty and you're a brave soul give it a try. However the FMCA show the 05 year model of the Element as the last year for flat towing.
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I checked my Element owners manual again. It specifically states that the only way to tow this vehicle is on a flat bed truck. The make this point perfectly clear.
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Dan, they are they talking about towing it behind a Wrecker? Many vehicles have to be loaded on a flatbed better known as a Rollback.
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