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Old 12-17-2012
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Mike who knows but I did hear one that was interesting. The rumour was that to placate the masses the oil industry was subsidizing gasoline by jacking up the diesel prices. Rational was that the average consumer would end up paying in the end because most of us are gasoline users. Higher diesel prices raise all consumer product prices then passed on to the gasoline consumers.
rob we are out numbered,,,, they just hire more people to figure out how to
separate us from our fuel money mike
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Mike I keep telling myself I have nothing to worry about until I start seeing truckers park their rigs and walk away.
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$3.709 in Largo. Down 2 cents in last week
Largo, Fl., is you in Largo, Fl. Rob?
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Mike I keep telling myself I have nothing to worry about until I start seeing truckers park their rigs and walk away.
by then rob....we will all be walk'n
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Had this discussion last week on another forum. Someone said the EPA figures more BTU's in a gallon of diesel and that makes the price higher. LPG and propane are cheaper than gas but have even less BTU's. Some truck fleets are supposed to be changing over to LPG (at great expense but the gvt will step in and give them a huge incentive) with a huge LPG "find" in the US scheduled to make it's appearance in 2014. I saw the biggest user of gasoline in Toledo change half of it's fleet over to propane thirty years ago at great expense. The changeover lasted less than a year and they went back to gas. There were no savings and the money lost changing back to gasoline was just gone. I'm just sayin'.


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Old 12-18-2012
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3.89 here in **** Paso!

gas 3.04

refinerys and pipe lines on both sides of river

i am guessing we substituent the shipping for a large area
Woody, I saw something recently about going across the border to fuel up at significantly lower prices. Have you had any experience doing this? Would it be too risky to drive a coach into possible harm's way there?

We will be going through El Paso in January and the thought had crossed my mind.
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Had this discussion last week on another forum. Someone said the EPA figures more BTU's in a gallon of diesel and that makes the price higher. LPG and propane are cheaper than gas but have even less BTU's. Some truck fleets are supposed to be changing over to LPG (at great expense but the gvt will step in and give them a huge incentive) with a huge LPG "find" in the US scheduled to make it's appearance in 2014. I saw the biggest user of gasoline in Toledo change half of it's fleet over to propane thirty years ago at great expense. The changeover lasted less than a year and they went back to gas. There were no savings and the money lost changing back to gasoline was just gone. I'm just sayin'.


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I changed a fleet over to LPG about 30 years ago myself.
Pickups,el caminos and some big 6 wheel gas engine trucks,all changed to LPG.
LPG prices went through the roof,and we took all that stuff off and junked it all.
what a waste of time.
We even built special engines for the pickups,high compression stuff,had Isky grind special cams.
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Back in 57 or 8 a fleet of R model International Dump Trucks from Grapevine Tx was changed over to Butane. My Father owned a Truck Stop at the time and thought his buisness was over. No so. The converted trucks used almost twice amount of fuel they were advertised to use and all was back to the old way for that time. Most dump trucks were gasoline with diesel powered truck running long haul. There were even a few gasoline powered cross country trucks I recall. Of course I was a kid at the time but loved trucks and cars even then.
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I changed a fleet over to LPG about 30 years ago myself.
Pickups,el caminos and some big 6 wheel gas engine trucks,all changed to LPG.
LPG prices went through the roof,and we took all that stuff off and junked it all.
what a waste of time.
We even built special engines for the pickups,high compression stuff,had Isky grind special cams.
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was it a big project to change pick-up/cars?? did you have to change comp. ratio or would they have run with stock comp??, i've alway been interested that as you still see some pick ups with big lp tank in back...mike
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"It's deja vu all over again", just like Yogi used to say. I have heard this same discussion with some modifications to prices ever since The Mideast Oil Crisis In October, 1973. I was moving mobile homes all over the country with my toter back then and the same discussion comes up every time the prices start to change, I got rid of the toter shortly after that.

A few years later was when I started my Oversize Load Flag Car Service eventually using VW Rabbit Diesel's and the same discussions were held ever since then.
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