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Old 06-13-2009
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Unless its been done, patent it! Since they allow concept patents these days...
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Maybe we should sell our fuel by the pound (weight).
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Selling by the BTU makes good sense. For a long time, the natural gas sold to homes in California is converted into "therms" (amount of BTUs) instead of cubic feet as was once done. The utility admits that the BTU content of the natural gas varies by source and the "fair" way is to charge by BTU content rather than by volume.

Likewise, gasoline is now frequently adulterated by ethanol -- a product with significantly fewer BTUs by volume than gasoline. So you get a double whammy, higher cost and less energy. The gasoline engine "compensates" for the lower BTU quantity in the ethanol by burning more of it...

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The same is true for 'winter blend' diesel. It does not have the same energy content as #2, so they sell it for less, but I don't really know how much difference there is. I do, however, get lower mileage with winter blend. So when I see diesel at the Valero station for less, I look for the winter blend sign. It is June, which doesn't translate to winter in NJ.
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Boys,
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This is primarily a lawyer issue. A gallon is a gallon. I agree that the average station owners generally lose when they fill their underground tanks from a tanker. If they get a little back, I do not mind. I would not buy somewhere that has black above-ground tanks.

Everything shrinks and swells with the temperature. Do you complain that the gallon of antifreeze is less when you take it from the heated store out to your car in the winter? Give a little back when you put it in and it heats up? How about buying a FC33 in the winter and finding that it is slightly smaller than it is in summer? Your wife's summer 5 carat diamond engagement ring is not quite that big in the winter. Gonna sue?

The sickening thing about this whole deal is that the lawyers make a ton on the class action lawsuit, the station owner gets screwed by having to install fancy pumps at his own expense and IN FIVE YEARS we will get gasoline that is now "temperature compensated" that is probably the same amount as we've been getting on average thru the year. I generally find I am not in the "class" that benefits from class action suits filed on my behalf. What a system!
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thank you John Churchill
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Default Fuel Prices & Quartzsite Fuel Stop Suggestion

Hi Folks,
All of you all that are coming I10 westbound to the SWBB Quartzsite Affair:

At the Vicksburg Road Exit about 25 miles before Quartzsite,there is a relatively new "Zip Travel Center" on the north side of Interstate 10 that I found to be as reasonable and most of all convenient access for Big Coaches.
I have used this facility a few times now and am very satisfied with the neccesary chore of stopping for fuel and good little store.
It would be ideal for topping off before you arrive at the Rally.
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Fred, that is what I wanted to hear. Do you have a milemarker for this stop?
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Mile marker 45 or Exit 45

Will you need fuel before you go to Alamo Lake?
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