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Old 05-22-2013
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Default Baby's got new shoes!! --or how old is too old??

After getting our new(er) bird last Sunday in OK we left to avoid the storms popping out there.
The original plan was to get new tires through the Michelin Advantage plan in OK, but the weather scared us out of town.
Second plan was to get to Amarillo for tires, but things went so well between Oklahoma city and Amarillo that we decided to head closer to home and get them in Flagstaff, AZ...

Got there this morning and had an appointment at Northern AZ tires. The took pretty good care of us, putting on 6 new Michelin 315 80R 22.5's all with pretty recent date codes....

I checked the codes on the old tires, most where in the 0401 range, which is pretty darn old for tires to run on, but I knew that and didnt drive over 60 all the way back... Made for a long trip! Almost 1000 miles...

Then we saw one on the tag axle with a 2000 date code! Of course the code was on the inside where you couldnt see it. Kind of scary!

When they got the drive tires off of one side I saw the code on it... 418!! That makes it about 15 years old!!!

The tire looked great though!! Nothing visually wrong inside or out...

I did see one with a chunk missing out of the tread.

Baby sure needed new shoes!!

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/Joe
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Joe. Count your BLESSINGS!!! Then buy a loto ticket, just ONE,,, it's your LUCKY DAY. Don
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What brand were these tires and what line in the brand? Example: Michelin XZE or XZA2, or Bridgestone R250..........?
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After getting our new(er) bird last Sunday in OK we left to avoid the storms popping out there.
The original plan was to get new tires through the Michelin Advantage plan in OK, but the weather scared us out of town.
Second plan was to get to Amarillo for tires, but things went so well between Oklahoma city and Amarillo that we decided to head closer to home and get them in Flagstaff, AZ...

Got there this morning and had an appointment at Northern AZ tires. The took pretty good care of us, putting on 6 new Michelin 315 80R 22.5's all with pretty recent date codes....

I checked the codes on the old tires, most where in the 0401 range, which is pretty darn old for tires to run on, but I knew that and didnt drive over 60 all the way back... Made for a long trip! Almost 1000 miles...

Then we saw one on the tag axle with a 2000 date code! Of course the code was on the inside where you couldnt see it. Kind of scary!

When they got the drive tires off of one side I saw the code on it... 418!! That makes it about 15 years old!!!

The tire looked great though!! Nothing visually wrong inside or out...

I did see one with a chunk missing out of the tread.

Baby sure needed new shoes!!

Pictures attached...


/Joe
Joe, did you pickup the Bird in Shawnee? There was a nice one over there.
Old tires is a gamble we can't afford to take.
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What brand were these tires and what line in the brand? Example: Michelin XZE or XZA2, or Bridgestone R250..........?
All but one where Michelin, I forgot the type, but the predecessor of the XZA2.

The other one was a Firestone, from 2000.

Michelin recommends 10 years as the life of their tires, based on what I saw with these thats probably conservative... And a good rule to follow!

http://www.michelintruck.com/assets/...e_RV_Tires.pdf


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Joe, did you pickup the Bird in Shawnee? There was a nice one over there.
Old tires is a gamble we can't afford to take.
ten year old tires - nice bird totalled - occupants lucky to escape uninjured.

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Joe, did you pickup the Bird in Shawnee? There was a nice one over there.
Old tires is a gamble we can't afford to take.
Ya, thats the one!

Re age, thats the question, how old is too old?

The last Wanderlodge I bought had 9 year old tires, I replaced all of them. None of them had any visual defects inside or out.

But your right, its a gamble, at the least if you throw a tread its an expensive repair, at worst death...


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Ya, thats the one!

Re age, thats the question, how old is too old?

The last Wanderlodge I bought had 9 year old tires, I replaced all of them. None of them had any visual defects inside or out.

But your right, its a gamble, at the least if you throw a tread its an expensive repair, at worst death...


/Joe
I think 10 years is too long between tires ESPECIALLY for Steer! IF I were to go 10 years it would definitely only be on the drives. If yoiu don't know the history of the tires then that 10 yr rule is out the window. Non-use is as bad as abuse.

BUT, being fair. If Michelins do stand behind the 10 year rule I'd like to see what other Manufactures put in writing. If Michelins are indeed 2-3 years longer then that offsets their high price enough to make them competitive again.

On my older, lighter coach I'll stick with name brands, low cost, and replace every 7 years. Once you have a steer blow-out you tend to look at things a little differently AND carry extra pair of shorts.
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I think 10 years is too long between tires ESPECIALLY for Steer! IF I were to go 10 years it would definitely only be on the drives. If yoiu don't know the history of the tires then that 10 yr rule is out the window. Non-use is as bad as abuse.

BUT, being fair. If Michelins do stand behind the 10 year rule I'd like to see what other Manufactures put in writing. If Michelins are indeed 2-3 years longer then that offsets their high price enough to make them competitive again.

On my older, lighter coach I'll stick with name brands, low cost, and replace every 7 years. Once you have a steer blow-out you tend to look at things a little differently AND carry extra pair of shorts.

I think 7 years is a good rule of thumb...

The steer tires on it were from 2008 so I felt pretty good about them. Had them put on the tag axle.

In a year or 2 I'll get 2 new ones for the steer and put the ones I got yesterday on the tag, then I'll be good till sometime in the 2020's !! ;}

It would be interesting to see what other manufactures recommend... Anyone have data on that?


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