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M380 (Unique Issues) If you have a unique issue with your M380 model coach and it can't be answered in one of the other forums here, then this is where you can list it.....list your M380 Parts here too.

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See if you have a plastic/composite oil pan
If so, you might spend on some parts to be prepared. Very poor quality stuff for a OTR truck engine.
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Nice Van, how far out of the pan does that stick out ? Looks like much less than other oil drain valves.
See pics, one with cap and other without. With the forward facing horizontal drain plug setup on the ISL, 90° fitting and 15” long tubing works best for M380 without a pit. Femco has other angles and tubing lengths available. When I called them, they verified which thread size would fit. Simply place tubing end into your recycling container, remove the cap, insert the angle fitting into the valve and screw it on. This action opens the valve. Once empty, unscrew the fitting & pull it out (closes the valve) and replace the cap. Makes emptying used oil a quick, no mess process with no danger of stripping the pan threads.

Pretty sure my pan is steel.
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Apparently all of our oil pans were composite, here’s Cummins’ info from the catalog.
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See pics, one with cap and other without. With the forward facing horizontal drain plug setup on the ISL, 90° fitting and 15” long tubing works best for M380 without a pit. Femco has other angles and tubing lengths available. When I called them, they verified which thread size would fit. Simply place tubing end into your recycling container, remove the cap, insert the angle fitting into the valve and screw it on. This action opens the valve. Once empty, unscrew the fitting & pull it out (closes the valve) and replace the cap. Makes emptying used oil a quick, no mess process with no danger of stripping the pan threads.

Pretty sure my pan is steel.
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Thanks for the pictures Van. Looks good, doesn’t stick out as much as a Fujimoto. I’m sold.
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Is this an ISM? I had a leaking bolt when I bought it. Dealer 'tightened it up'! My Lx is an 03 so now I am concerned. Something to look at this winter.
No, Not the same at all but ........ The ISM has an Aluminum pan and the threads are very likely to come out with the plug!

I found that the ISM is a non-standard thread pitch and American.
The ISX is also a non-standard thread pitch but is metric and just slightly larger than the OEM American.

SO, by a Femco or Fumoto Valve for an ISX
Borrow the tap I had made and just run it up in the oil pan at the next change and locktite in a fumoto valve. DONE!
This is for the ISM .. NOT the ISL
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Parts coming in from Cummins tomorrow, hope to be back on the road soon. Luckily the bus is in the barn, nice and dry and warm!
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No, Not the same at all but ........ The ISM has an Aluminum pan and the threads are very likely to come out with the plug!

I found that the ISM is a non-standard thread pitch and American.
The ISX is also a non-standard thread pitch but is metric and just slightly larger than the OEM American.

SO, by a Femco or Fumoto Valve for an ISX
Borrow the tap I had made and just run it up in the oil pan at the next change and locktite in a fumoto valve. DONE!
This is for the ISM .. NOT the ISL

What’s the reason for using the loctite ? And red or blue ?
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No, Not the same at all but ........ The ISM has an Aluminum pan and the threads are very likely to come out with the plug!

I found that the ISM is a non-standard thread pitch and American.
The ISX is also a non-standard thread pitch but is metric and just slightly larger than the OEM American.

SO, by a Femco or Fumoto Valve for an ISX
Borrow the tap I had made and just run it up in the oil pan at the next change and locktite in a fumoto valve. DONE!
This is for the ISM .. NOT the ISL
Sounds good. I know the bung and oil plug are on the bottom. When I first saw the coach I didn't know the golden rule about never ever going under it while its not on jacks (it was aired up). I got right under and looked right at it.

I'll PM you about the tap (thank!) when I get it all together this winter. Garage is about 80 day out. Pads are all done and waiting.
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What’s the reason for using the loctite ? And red or blue ?
Blue: 1.Because locktite is also a thread sealer (according to their engineer) and you will never take it out again.
2. Because the new threads are in Aluminum and with Locktite you can leave it just a little past finger tight and not worry about it backing out.

Chris, I have the tap but email is best contact method.
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3. Because Loctite will prevent anything (water, salt, oxygen, etc..) from getting into the threads and causing corrosion
4. Blue, because if you really need to you can get it apart without heat.


Working with aluminum housings and stainless fasteners immersed in salt water, we always used Loctite (usually purple). They'd always come right back out without damaging any threads. Good stuff.
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