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Old 02-23-2018
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good pics!
I think thats called a drive rivet?
The top extrusion is hellforstout.
Its structural for sure,a great product idea.
Its heavy and has channels made in it for roof bows and when used on the over the road coachs the side windows had a nice little channel they fit into.
Plus the side skin on the wanderlodges had a nice little lip to fasten too.
A very impressive part.
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With aluminum skin over a steel frame you will have expansion at different rates. When I re-skinned my Eagle, I used heaters to get the aluminum quite hot as we stretched the aluminum sheet tight and then riveted it. I have seen jobs where the skin was not stretched properly and they are all wavy.

I don't know if this roof skin was stretched when installed, but if it was, then you may not be able to line up the rivet holes without getting the temperature right.
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M380 is aluminum- aluminum extrusion and aluminum roof.
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Here’s a mention of popped rivets on an M380 roof from a few years ago but no discussion:

https://www.wanderlodgeownersgroup.c...ad.php?t=19443
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Just a couple of questions, is it possible the coach was put in a twist situation, unusual driveway, curb, hard type of turn, a front to back angle probably at a very slow speed. Bluebird built a strong frame, just asking.
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John’s onto something. ^^^ - perhaps PM Garry to see what his solution involved? Keeping materials the same is important. After drilling into them, can tell you the underlying support bows/stringers are also aluminum, so dissimilar heat expansion/contraction may not be the problem, at least on the roof. Looking at Stanley’s catalog, there are lots of Pop options - http://www.stanleyengineeredfastenin..._EN_Dec-17.pdf
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With my new walmart glasses on,it looks like to me the rivets failed.
I would love to have one in my hand to look at,a new one and one that came out of the roof.
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Thanks everyone for your thoughts.

To my way of thinking, our coach has not gone through any unusual twisting or underwent any undue torsional forces. I could see such items could cause serious problems.

Oddly enough, the rivets have failed. I was able to remove/punch in the broken rivets and planning on replacing them with new ones. The hole is ~7/32". Anyone have an idea as to what type and size might do the best job?
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Interesting.
Is there a way to get a camera (like a borescope) in to that cavity to see the backside of the extrusion?

Without know more I would go up a size with the rivets.

Can you put calipers on them and determine their diameter?
It would seem the present might be 3/16” based on the hole size.

Also how does the extrusion interface to the flat portion? Do they overlap? If so is there a glue / adhesive between?

The rivet might just serve to hold together while the adhesive sets.

Can you see into the 1/8” to 1/4” gap?
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I just checked my rivets, and they are very similar to the rivets GM used to attach inner door mechanisms in the ‘80’s, I would check with an autobody store , they should stock them. When I installed a few of them last year I used a heavy duty rivet installer, here’s a pic..
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