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M380 (Unique Issues) If you have a unique issue with your M380 model coach and it can't be answered in one of the other forums here, then this is where you can list it.....list your M380 Parts here too.

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Old 03-07-2013
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I just helped Hish do one of his lower joints on Sunday. While I have not done an upper joint, there appears to be no reason that they cannot be done just like the lower ones.

If any of you are getting ready to do yours, be prepared to remove the wheel and tire to get proper access to the lower joint and also remove the air bag to get access to the upper one. An angled fitting will probably be required on the upper joint to allow grease to be added. This will be obvious once you remove the wheel and tire.
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Jim and I looked at my M450 LXI to see if a zerk fitting can be install for the upper ball joint, Jim and I concluded that the air bag must be removed to install a zerk on the upper ball joint on the M450. I am not sure if the condition is the same on M380. Jim helped me install the right side lower ball joint zerk fitting on Sunday. I installed the left side ball joint zerk fitting on my own coach yesterday. On the M450 you must remove the tire and wheel to have access the lower ball joint to drill for the zerk fitting. The total time to remove the tire dill the 1/8",& 7/32" (0.215") hole, tape a 1/4-28, install the zerk fitting, install the tire back and torque the nuts was 1.5 hours. Easy job with one exception needed help to install the tire and Mr. Wyatt came to my assistance.
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Old 07-21-2013
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All,

I'm currently replacing the upper ball joint covers on my M380 and need some advice. How did you get the upper ball joint out of the knuckle? Mine seems to be stuck.... My upper covers are in bad shape and while I'm replacing the lower covers I thought it best to replace the uppers too.

Any suggestions will be appreciated.

Thanks for all your help!
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Old 07-21-2013
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Dan,

Sorry you are having issues with your upper joint boots. You will require a separation tool or hydraulic ram to remove the tapered shaft of the joint from the spindle after removing the nut. A drawing of the separation tool is shown at the end of the Meritor manual for the independent front suspension. I do not know of anyone that has had one made. I used a hydraulic ram and porta power with appropriate spacers to apply pressure to the end of the stud and then "wacked the side of the spindle to get the joint to pop loose. This method while not approved or recommended in the manual (or I am sure by some purists on the forum) has worked for me.

To my knowledge, there is no replacement boot available for the upper joint. With that said, I am sure that a suitable CV joint boot can be made to work (it should be easier to find one for the upper joint as it is smaller than the lower joint). If it were me, I would just install a grease fitting (as described earlier in this thread) and add grease frequently. This is what we did to Cliff's coach and it seems to be doing fine. IMO the issue with the upper joint boot is of much less concern as it does not trap water like the lower one does. Just for information, the greasing is not mainly for lubrication as that is taken care mostly by the nylon insert, it is to flush out any dust or grit that may get in the joint.

Would be glad to discuss this more if you care to call. eight 28 eight 59-2779
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Thanks Jim that's information I needed Now on to new tools big toys,big tools
Thanks again Dan
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Old 12-21-2013
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I just did both upper CV boots.

See pdf file below for how to:

UBJ_380_450reboot.doc
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Some corrections on pdf file

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Atta boy Dan sounds like you've got it together on the ball joint.
Did you drill and install a zerk for adding more grease later or will it even be necessary?
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I did the 4 zerk fittings while I was in there. That's another surgical procedure. They may not ever need grease, but while the wheel well was empty, I did it. Just getting the bus cribbed up and the wheels off is a big task at home.
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Dan
Thats great glad you got it done.
Yes it's a BIG job.
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