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Old 02-11-2017
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Was looking at this trailer for sale.. Any thought??
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Triple axle says to me 20K GVW. Arn't most BB's limited to 10K towing?
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Way too long Your going to be 5' over max. length in many states and 10' in a couple. Might be pushing your luck, with that one. Is it length you need or are you just wanting bigger for more storage? If it is the latter then go up not out. Put an attic in it and store a ton of stuff or even a stacker.
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Thank you all for your thoughts.. Take out the Blue Bird and add in a 1997 Dodge 3500.. Do you all think the trailer will be worth while???
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Heres my experience with enclosed trailers.

I have worked on John Finns trailer several times,his trailer has 5 lug wheels and it had torsion axles.
His first set of axles lasted a few years and the rubber in the axles went bad,he had new axles installed.
Within a few years those axles were worn out and i installed new axles and added leaf springs,instead of using yet another set of torsion axles.
I tried to talk John into 8 lug axles but he had nice wheels and spare tires already for the 5 lug axles (i bet he wished we had upsized today).

I had a race trailer with 8 lug axles,tires last way longer with the 16'' wheels.
I had a 3 axle trailer with 5 lug axles,bought it used from a Bird owner.
When loaded and towing behind a 3/4 ton dodge diesel pickup it had a tendency to push the truck around on turns,high speed turns on 4 lane roads,you could feel the trailer pushing on the truck.
I think the third axle was doing this.

One of our members here bought an enclosed trailer from a trailer builder in Ga.
I thought it was cheaply built and even though this trailer was custom built they did not build it the the buyers specs,he was in a time crunch and bought it anyway.

So,if i was buying a trailer it would have spring suspension,2-8 lug axles,light truck tires (non of that trailer tire junk).

I know other guys here have different opinions on this,but this is what works for me.
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Thanks Randy for the info.. I want to buy one that is going to last..
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Hey Randy, just to add to your comments;

1) I pull a 24' flatbed trailer for my toys behind the bus and my 1/2 ton 4x4 pickup. It's only 2 axle, 15" wheels, 5-lug, and 5,000 GVW so small and easy to tow. That makes my total bus length just at 59'. I use brake controllers on both vehicles and have never had any issues with trailer tires on this trailer. I do run fast (70mph) but typically under the tire load rating by a good margin & I run the tires at max pressure.

2) I friend of mine bought a new toy hauler that also had 2 axle, 15" wheels, 5 lugs and had nothing but problems with his trailer tires. When he asked for my help I found the trailer was already maxing out the tire ratings that come on the trailer! How can they sell trailers with over grossed tires?

We got them to replace the tires & wheels, went to 16" lt truck tires and he's done much better! Originally he had 3 blow outs the first year, now he's only had one in the last several years. BTW, had to get him to slow down too! He had no respect for trailer towing and ran at high speeds. Az heat and high speed kills tires.

3) My son pulls a 3 axle toy hauler now, he's pulled 2 axles for years. He loves the 3 axle as he says it pulls easier and inherently wants to go straight. He did say turning was more of a challenge and he does experience tire scrub. He has not experienced any blowouts because he is not near the tire ratings. He drives sensibly and also uses LT tires.

NOTE: #2 Trailers above are being towed with 3/4 ton pickups and a ball hitch. #1 is towed behind my bus. I only use these examples because on a 3/4 ton pickup you'll feel more of what the trailer is doing so we can figure out the trailers characteristics. Behind the bus I doubt you'll feel much.
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My 2 cents worth on a trailer,
I've have a two axle 14' enclosed trailer that I bought new
and used as a rolling workshop for about five years.

You want to look at how the interior trailer frame is made,
A lot of manufacturers use either c-channel or hat channel, because it's cheaper.
that's a flat piece of metal bent into a c with two 90 degree bends
or a couple more bends into a stove pipe hat shape.

The problem with that for a frame is, it flexes
and eventually all the rivet and screw holes elongate.
And it shakes itself apart,
kinda like what a pontoon boat does, if you take it out in rough water.

Make sure the trailer is constructed with square or rectangular tubing
if you want something that will last.
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My 2 cents worth on a trailer,
I've have a two axle 14' enclosed trailer that I bought new
and used as a rolling workshop for about five years.

You want to look at how the interior trailer frame is made,
A lot of manufacturers use either c-channel or hat channel, because it's cheaper.
that's a flat piece of metal bent into a c with two 90 degree bends
or a couple more bends into a stove pipe hat shape.

The problem with that for a frame is, it flexes
and eventually all the rivet and screw holes elongate.
And it shakes itself apart,
kinda like what a pontoon boat does, if you take it out in rough water.

Make sure the trailer is constructed with square or rectangular tubing
if you want something that will last.
I've heard that the square or rectangular tubing is also prone to rust issues since they are enclosed?
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OP might want to consider this example, $6,000 worth of custom cabinets, 30a service and A/C. Alloy 8 lugs, never towed anything heavy, can be yours for $8000.
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