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I have a 1986 Holiday Rambler Imperial Limited 38 with a Gillig chassis and cat 10.3lt v8. She has 29000 miles, and all aluminum frame, filon free skin, 3ac's, Perkins diesel genset. NADA has no listing for her as there were apparently so few sold. Dealer price was $190k back in the day. I have books and sales brochures. Gillig has no build sheet. HR won't even talk to me. End to end she measures at 39'9". No idea what the "38" means.

We drove from her former home in Athens Texas to Colorado-Springs in the midst of an arctic cold front that required an immediate rebuild of the 4 speed airshifter because the crud inside froze up. Rebuild kit is supposedly 2 months out if the owner of the patents feels motivated.

While driving up to Green Mountain Falls we lost fuel pressure on the mechanical injector pump, I believe because of the 3000 foot rise.

Your site was the only place I could find info on the cat engine, the hand pump on the injector pump, and the airshifter. I credit you folks with wisdom on how I got her started again. Thanks

I'm handy and rebuilding almost everything. I've pulled carpet and put in plank flooring, rebuilt the air shifter, reinstalled the floor duct heater, wire brushed lots of wire connections, replaced 4 H8 batteries, pulled pink bats from 1.5" walls and replaced with Rmax and great stuff, insulated engine/bed area so -10 degrees is survivable, sealed roof seams, and insulated the Coleman Mach ac's after the exchanger. The HR pusher group is post 2000 chassis with relays and such. A non computerized diesel is out of their ball park.

My upcoming challenge is to simplify the wiring. There are wads of wire everywhere.

Thanks for accepting our application Robb
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Welcome to the Wanderlodge Owners Group Forum Robb.
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OK,we all just learned something!
Tell us about the air shifter,maybe even show some pics?
We like pics.
One word of warning,Great stuff hold moisture,i used it in a dodge truck cab and within 6 months i had rust holes as big as your head.
I scrapped the truck,my fault for nt checking on the Great Stuff first.
Got pics of your bus?
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We like pics?
Well, just set up some albums.. Can groups of pictures be uploaded? I'm on an android tablet and it seems to take 5 clicks per picture? That will demotivate the picture delivery process. How do I reply with a picture, which icon on the control panel goes to my gallery, not web links? Thanks
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One word of warning,Great stuff hold moisture,i used it in a dodge truck cab and within 6 months i had rust holes as big as your head.
I scrapped the truck,my fault for nt checking on the Great Stuff first.
Got pics of your bus?
I'm using regular Great Stuff (closed cell) around edges of Rmax pieces to moderate the expansion pressure. Windows and doors GS is open cell and will do as you described. I did hold my breath around the door frame, but figured I could cut it back out if door got stuck (aluminum bends). Stopping the Aluminum framing from wicking crazy amounts of heat/cold is the motivation. I've cut the energy necessary to maintain a livable temp by more than half from starting point.

Just first thought, frame is aluminum and aluminum siding is riveted. Corrosion is possible? Rust impossible?

I thought the closed cell is moisture free. I'll check for more info around as my use Is definitely "off label". I'm considering drilling holes and injecting under plank flooring to improve insulation value of 1" fiberglass under floor.
My average humidity is in the 20% range. Just checked one place still exposed and still have hard outer crust. More info required...
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Welcome Robb,

Your pictures in the album can be viewed, lucky to have the original brochures.
Looks like there were three engine choices, one being a Cat 3208 maybe a 250HP turbo. Ask questions or search the forum, lots of 3208 info available.
Add pictures to your album or for a specific posting question scroll down to the manage attachments and add a picture from your computer files or phone. Depending on your picture software the pic may go sideways, which can be rotated and reentered.
We are also interested in the tranny and air clutch.
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Robb; welcome aboard. Lots of help available on the WOG, just ask and be nice.

I really like the Gillig chassis and will be following your postings.

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Sirs,
I have a 1986 Holiday Rambler Imperial Limited 38 with a Gillig chassis and cat 10.3lt v8. She has 29000 miles, and all aluminum frame, filon free skin, 3ac's, Perkins diesel genset. NADA has no listing for her as there were apparently so few sold. Dealer price was $190k back in the day. I have books and sales brochures. Gillig has no build sheet. HR won't even talk to me. End to end she measures at 39'9". No idea what the "38" means.

Thanks for accepting our application Robb
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welcome to the forum robb
i have never had a problem with closed cell foam...
alum to alum with alum rivets should be good but using it for grounds with dissimilar metals can be a issue..
i for one would like to see some pics of coach and your projects mike
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Welcome to the Wanderlodge Owners Group Forum Robb.
Thanks, "welcome" is always appreciated for odd ducks like me..
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THat air shifter is something,i have never seen one before.
I would be looking for a spare!

I have a buddy with an American Dream (i think) and it has the Gillig Chassis,hes pretty proud of that chassis.
His has a 8.3 Cummins,his is newer being a 95 model i think.
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