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Old 11-06-2010
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This is disturbing: http://www.streetfire.net/video/bus-...est_182389.htm
Prevost test crash.
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Old 11-07-2010
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David that was a great video. Disturbing yes, as I thought the Prevost would do better. Goes to prove out the old saying about driving a bus or cab over semi truck or a van.

" Be aware because your the first one at the scene of the accident".

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Few trees vs back of semi I'd pick the trees. Ask a pilot.
That 450 (a write-off) had ~1400 lbs more steel forward of the front axle then the modified ones that are out there now. Only the plastic cap remains. No "bumber".(In moving the genset to a side bay, BB also removed as much steel as possible to take loading off the front axle.No concern about crash worthiness- just lighten it and attach the front cap.- A few got a manual slide out drawer with a 50 lb load limit )
Both 450's that had tire failures lost control and now the anti-sway/stabilizing system has also been removed. (active air).
Not strong like the old Blue Birds.

The DOT reports that 50% of front tire blowouts in trucks results in a fatality.
maybe not the driver of the blowout,it may be a bystander.
Front tire blowouts are bad in any year bird.
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I would think in a standard (if there is such thing) car or pickup truck accident a bus would fare fairly well. Because of the height difference. In a situation of a head-on accident with a like vehicle, bus or semi there would be some serious damage and loss of life in most situations. Just look at our vehicles there are no cross members or any serious structual support accross the front end of the vehicle. The engine provides little support. The older birds had steel body panels and a steel bumper, the newer birds are plastic & fiberglass. Seeing a semi & state highway truck crash recently on our way to Hershey the semi slung engine parts over 100 yards it was to total loss, the semi driver made it out ok but primarely due to the elevation or height of the cab. The state worker didn't walk away.
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I would think in a standard (if there is such thing) car or pickup truck accident a bus would fare fairly well. Because of the height difference. In a situation of a head-on accident with a like vehicle, bus or semi there would be some serious damage and loss of life in most situations. Just look at our vehicles there are no cross members or any serious structual support accross the front end of the vehicle. The engine provides little support. The older birds had steel body panels and a steel bumper, the newer birds are plastic & fiberglass. Seeing a semi & state highway truck crash recently on our way to Hershey the semi slung engine parts over 100 yards it was to total loss, the semi driver made it out ok but primarely due to the elevation or height of the cab. The state worker didn't walk away.
Regardless of the age or model of the Wanderlodge or any bus for that matter, the Prevost crash video makes one thing crystal clear, the driver is sitting in the crumple zone. I don't care if the face of the bus is steel, fiberglass, composite, or whatever, it isn't going to absorb any impact energy to protect the driver, and it may as well not be there. In a head-on with a similar sized obstacle, the bus drive is piloting a 25 ton motorcycle.

I bet the Prevost in that video isn't going any faster than 35 mph, probably 37.28 mph or 60 km/h.

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