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Old 11-07-2009
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The fire department has the fire under control, but they are still putting out some hot spots and will be for some time. Randy and I had pulled his 'Bird away from the house further up the drive after the first fire today so the way to my 'Bird in the back yard was past his 'Bird, but not knowing if the fire had gotten to the propane tanks for sure or not (that might have been the loud BOOM that the neighbors heard when they called Randy) I wasn't going to walk past it too close, so I managed to climb over the fence and get to my 'Bird and grab my camera and got these shots.
The Boom is usually the tires popping from the heat, The propane tanks usually do not explode or feed the fire. The Firemen vent the propane off after the fire in out. But with the huge amount of fuel, propane, flamable material , and heat anything can happen.
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Looking at the after pics all the tires are still inflated. I think that was the fuel expulsion or possible propane going off.
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One of the things that Randy, Carol and I discussed yesterday was even though their 'Bird is a total loss, it still stands as a testament as to how well built a 'Bird really is. We have all seen the pictures that I took of it completely engulfed in flames, but only the small group of neighbors, relatives and friends that had gathered just a few nights ago heard that horrible sound of the fire as it consumed the 'Bird inch by inch, but at the same time I couldn't help but marvel at how it's skeleton stood there and took it all standing up to the torture that it was going through and then to see it the next day and again this morning, a burned mass, but still standing upright with it's outside compartments still intact and nothing inside of them burned.





Not even the plastic door panels that were stored in one of the bays look like they started to melt from the intence heat from a few inches above.




The house batteries located just forward of the engine compartment batteries that were completely destroyed look almost as if nothing had happened to them even though they are just mere inches away, it is mind boggling and truly amazing to see.

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Looking at the after pics all the tires are still inflated. I think that was the fuel expulsion or possible propane going off.
Given that the bays are still fine, including contents, I think propane, fuel, and tires can all be ruled out.

A lot of things go "boom" when they get hot enough, because of all of the expansion going on. Even the body metal might "boom" in places.
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One other thing that I noticed was that the propane tank on Randy's 'Bird was located in the middle of the bus between two of the bays and was only accessible after a panel with a lot of screws was removed, the panel can be seen below after one of the firefighters removed it and set it off to the side.



I would have to make a quick access door in that panel just to have access to the shutoff valve, even though the automatic shutoff for the propane system did work as it was designed, when the fire reached the refrigerator the propane wasn't automatically shutdown yet and it fed the fire even more and got a little spectacular for a while.
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We can all figure out that the small 3# handheld fire extinguisher shown above would have had about as much effect on Randy's fire if it would have just been thrown at the 'Bird, but the fire extinguishers in our 'Birds seem to be one of those things that some of us hardly even look at and don't take the time to have them tested, don't just look at the gauge and take that as an indication that the extinguisher will work correctly when you need it, I am just as guilty at that habit myself. I do look at the extinguishers gauge whenever I see each of the four extinguishers that I have, three of the small 3# sizes like the one in the picture above, distributed inside my 'Bird at the front, in the center and at the back and a large 9# size located inside of the right front outside compartment.

It is recommended that the fire extinguisher be checked for the gauge to indicate that it is charged and ready for use every month and then once a year it should be tested by an authorized dealer, or some fire departments will do this too, check with your local fire departments for their recommendations.
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John can you elaborate on how a fire department checks an extinguisher? I can check the guage and give it shake but the warning label says don't break the seal and test. Do they (fire departments) have a procedure???
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John can you elaborate on how a fire department checks an extinguisher? I can check the guage and give it shake but the warning label says don't break the seal and test. Do they (fire departments) have a procedure???

Rob,

I'm not real sure, whenever I used to have it done I just dropped them off at the Fire Extinguisher dealer and he tested them and then returned them to me, to be honest I haven't had it done since I quit driving cross country escorting oversize loads and my extinguishers were checked by the different states DOT so I could get that states certification to escort loads there.

Maybe one of our Firefighter members can give us some tips. The local volunteer fire department in the small Iowa farming community I used to live in offered a fire extinguisher check during fire prevention week, I'm not sure if they did it themselves or had a dealer do it for them.
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I suppose like a lot of others perhaps, I have become complacent in the last 14 months I have owned my 'bird. Reliable, comfortable, safe, etc. but I haven't worried about fire - until now.

I checked my fire extinguishers - I have three of them - one behind the passenger seat and two in the "basement". It seems all of them are either dead or are probably OEM and most likely unreliable aft 12+ years.

So, off to the fire extinguisher store. What type, what brand, what size and how many should I have?

Also, I've never given the emergency exit more than a passing thought. Should I check them for ease of operation, etc., and does using the emergency exit windows do any damage to the windows?

I'm sure these questions are sort of primary, but like I said, I've not given any of this much thought until now.
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guys,I'm going to be a little quiet on this thread,i cannot inspect anything on the coach until the fire inspector for the insurance company does his inspection.
I have not even been inside,even though Carol and John have both been in for a few pics.

So,until the inspector comes on tuesday,i will not even guess at what may have gone wrong.
Meanwhile,we can talk about fire prevention,and what to do in case of a fire.
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