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Old 11-22-2020
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We have been in LA area for near a year now and planning to get on the road late spring sometimes. We arrived here with a Honda Element toad a since then have purchased 2 motorcycles and would like to keep and somehow take it with us. I hate the idea of having to deal with a trailer. I was thinking to buy a van and put the motorcycles in the van and tow the van. A regular Ford E150 van’s GWVR plus the motorcycles is below 10,000lb. I came across this medium duty international 1652 step van in an auction and based on what I have found online (not much) I may be looking at near 18,000 lb. of tow vehicle including the motorcycles. Questions:

-Is it possible to tow that much weight? I have heard the current setup on the bus is rated for 10,000 lb. can it be upgraded to 20,000 lb. and what would be the cost?
-if I can safely upgrade the tow setup to accommodate the extra weight, what is the strain on the old 8v92? I know last year going over Lewiston grade - Lewiston/Clarkston To Coeur d’Alene on US-95 on a steep grade, gaining over 1,900 feet in five miles it was going around 35 mph and all temperatures were rising.


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My FC can (think Donut Wagon) not sure about the back of a WB
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cool van.
But maybe a little overkill!
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So I am not Crazy for thinking of towing my H1 behind it.
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So I am not Crazy for thinking of towing my H1 behind it.
I have seen a few H1s behind motorhomes on the road. You should be fine.
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We have been in LA area for near a year now and planning to get on the road late spring sometimes. We arrived here with a Honda Element toad a since then have purchased 2 motorcycles and would like to keep and somehow take it with us. I hate the idea of having to deal with a trailer. I was thinking to buy a van and put the motorcycles in the van and tow the van. A regular Ford E150 van’s GWVR plus the motorcycles is below 10,000lb. I came across this medium duty international 1652 step van in an auction and based on what I have found online (not much) I may be looking at near 18,000 lb. of tow vehicle including the motorcycles. Questions:

-Is it possible to tow that much weight? I have heard the current setup on the bus is rated for 10,000 lb. can it be upgraded to 20,000 lb. and what would be the cost?
-if I can safely upgrade the tow setup to accommodate the extra weight, what is the strain on the old 8v92? I know last year going over Lewiston grade - Lewiston/Clarkston To Coeur d’Alene on US-95 on a steep grade, gaining over 1,900 feet in five miles it was going around 35 mph and all temperatures were rising.


https://www.proxibid.com/Van-Cargo-T...ation/57475411
My first question would be what size bikes are we talking about. If they hare near the mid to small size they would fit in the back of a 4x4 pick up. That would assist with the towability of the vehicle, since about all 4x4 are towable 4 down. It would put you more in line with your weight issues, also. I have a 2002 Silverado 2500HD that I pull behind my bus. I would be under the 10K# mark with two bikes in the back. With the right kind of ramp off of the back it would work just fine. Something like this https://www.discountramps.com/atv/ra...RoCN3oQAvD_BwE
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Seems like a trailer would be much easier than jamming road bikes into a van every time you stop, and a Honda for tooling around would beat a work van.
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Maybe want to find out if the automatic transmission in the van can be towed first.
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Maybe want to find out if the automatic transmission in the van can be towed first.
No,it can't be towed unless you put a driveshaft disconnect in it.
Looking at the gearshift,its an allison world series,2000 or 3000?
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There was a recall on the 97-2000 Wanderlodges for inadequately welded trailer hitches. I am not sure if it covers any earlier years. I have towed heavier trailers with my Wanderlodges but only after doing some reinforcement of the hitch.
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