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Old 09-23-2009
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Default 1988 FC35SB Cold Start

Hi all--
I have a momentary switch on the right dash of our '88 labeled "Cold Start" that the manual says controls an ether mist for cold start. I am assuming some of you have the same control, but...where is the canister?

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Look on the street side in front of the battery bank. The canister may have been removed by the PO. Hint: You probably do not need to use the Ether for starting the 3208 CAT. IMHO the block heater, installed in the center curb side freeze plug location, does an excellent job of the pre-heating the CAT. I try to remember to use the block heater any time the ambient temps dip below 50 degrees. A warm CAT 3208 does not smoke nearly as much as a cold engine. IMHO the Ether Canister would be only used in an emergency situation.

Has anyone on this forum ever used their ether canister?
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We had to use it once in Golden CO, had few inches of snow and it was below freezing. Didn't remember to turn on engine preheat and had to move to dump station. Gave it one shot and it didn't start, gave it another shot and Series 60 fired right off. Would have to have waited quite awhile for block heater to warm up.
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Morey,
I think Wanderlodges look "cool" covered in snow. I have seen several pictures of them over the years in wintery conditions. Where do you keep the snow shovel?? Great looking coach by the way!
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I think when you inject the ether, you want to have the starter turning the engine. At least that's what I've been told by my diesel mechanic. If you inject ether and then rotate the engine, he said you can lock up the motor. Any diesel experts want to comment?
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I think when you inject the ether, you want to have the starter turning the engine. At least that's what I've been told by my diesel mechanic. If you inject ether and then rotate the engine, he said you can lock up the motor. Any diesel experts want to comment?
David,

When I drove a National City Lines bus back in the 60's in the Midwest, it was almost a standard procedure every morning to start them with a shot of ether, which was sprayed into the ether injection hole by the mechanic while we cranked the engine from the driver seat.





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Now you went and did it. You're not a true busnut if you don't get all gooey over the old GM buses. Is that 4512? What a beauty!
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Thanks--I was looking over near the air cleaner for the canister but couldn't see anyplace in particular that looked like it might receive one. I'll have to go look again with a different mindset.
Speaking of the engine heater, I don't seem to have a switch for one in ours. I would think it would be over next to the copilot's seat like in our '83...seems to me it is supposed to be up toward the top of the dash over near the doghouse. What am I missing?
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Jeff: You should find the ether canister on the driver's side... extreme left front under the coach in front of the steering gear. You will not have a blocker heater switch on your '88 FC, unless added by PO, except for the circuit breaker inside the 120V house electrical box on the right side of the entry stairs. Bill Pape, John McG, and Rob B can probably agree with me you this.
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Default Ether...cold starting

[QUOTE=iamflagman;30746]David,

When I drove a National City Lines bus back in the 60's in the Midwest, it was almost a standard procedure every morning to start them with a shot of ether, which was sprayed into the ether injection hole by the mechanic while we cranked the engine from the driver seat.


John: I'll bet the 'ole timers' who drove the original Hupmobile/Greyhound buses had some good stories about cold weather starting in Hibbing, Minn. Click on the link to read about the start of Greyhound Buslines in Hibbing, MN

http://away.com/primedia/transport/greyhound_1.html
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