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I think I am closing in on a 1985 PT40 contingent on the sale of my Lazy Daze. I'm presently in Idaho and will be heading to South Dakota to change domociles to that state this fall. Since there is no sales tax in Montana and I will be passing thru, does anyone know where a good deal could be had for the purchase and installation of a jake brake.

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Dennis, this coach should have either a retarder or Jake already on it.
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Thanks for your reply Ernie. I think it has a retarder but wouldn't it be wise to have a jake. From what I've read there is no comparison as to performance (getting the job done). Most of my driving is in the West.
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Thanks for your reply Ernie. I think it has a retarder but wouldn't it be wise to have a jake. From what I've read there is no comparison as to performance (getting the job done). Most of my driving is in the West.
Dennis Curt Sprenger is the best one to answer your question. He's been there and done it. He'll see this and comment I'm sure.
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My old bus (GMC PD4104) had a jake and the retarder on my bird works just as well. It is nice to have the lever to vary the amount of retard when going down a hill. The retarder heats the trans oil very quickly but I have never seen it get above 320 so if you are traveling through a lot or very long hills having both couldn't hurt. I would use the retarder most of the time except on the large hills.
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Greetings,
I think I am closing in on a 1985 PT40 contingent on the sale of my Lazy Daze. I'm presently in Idaho and will be heading to South Dakota to change domociles to that state this fall. Since there is no sales tax in Montana and I will be passing thru, does anyone know where a good deal could be had for the purchase and installation of a jake brake.

TIA
Not the answer you are looking for but before planning on fixing/changing or upgrading things such as that try what the coach came with first. In many instances you may save a lot of money and headache that way. Needless to say I am not referring to anything broken or obviously outdated. Just the mechanical design itself. In most cases BB did things right....
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Dennis Curt Sprenger is the best one to answer your question. He's been there and done it. He'll see this and comment I'm sure.
Dennis,
Call Vance Butler of Butler Enterprises 619 561-1219 or 619 672-7009 cell (best number to call). He has surplus Jake sets; new, used, rebuilt. His son will do a nice job installing too at a reduced price from the shops. Several of us have used this source and happy with them. Be patient as Vance is a busy man. He will get back to you.
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Curt, is Vance the fella that was at Quartzite that I talked to? CRS has taken place in me brain
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Curt, is Vance the fella that was at Quartzite that I talked to? CRS has taken place in me brain
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No, if my CRS isn't too bad, Vance did not make it to Q. You may have talked with Jon Bailey. Jon purchased his Jake set from Vance and his son installed the Jakes and bigger injectors. John said the Jake is a must have. The injectors gave more power and a little better fuel mileage.
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No, if my CRS isn't too bad, Vance did not make it to Q. You may have talked with Jon Bailey. Jon purchased his Jake set from Vance and his son installed the Jakes and bigger injectors. John said the Jake is a must have. The injectors gave more power and a little better fuel mileage.
Not wanting to steal this thread but where do I find more info on injectors giving better fuel mileage?
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