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Old 06-26-2008
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I looked at all the lifts and found them all amazingly high priced. All were 5 grand or more after shipping and install. I was ready to not do it (even though I already had the bike and coach and plan to "toad" this way), until, after a lot of searching, I found a used lift on craigslist for $1100. It was in Denver and I am in Phx, so it would've been a few more hundred for shipping, but I lucked out and the guy was going to Tucson to visit his son, and offered to hand deliver it for $100! Then the install would've been ~$1000, but I did it myself. I also modified it quite a bit, since it (all of them) just comes with one channel for the bike, and my bike has 2 front wheels (vespa mp3), so I welded a frame of 2" tubing and put expanded metal on it. This way, I could also haul other stuff sometimes too. I also made a rack for two bicycles in the space between the bike and the coach. 'Am just about to try it all out for the first time next week, when we head to northern Cal on or maiden voyage since we got the coach (except for a mad-dash home from Florida, after buying it from Randy). I can't see how to put a photo on here, but I have some if anyone's interested.

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I looked at all the lifts and found them all amazingly high priced. All were 5 grand or more after shipping and install. I was ready to not do it (even though I already had the bike and coach and plan to "toad" this way), until, after a lot of searching, I found a used lift on craigslist for $1100. It was in Denver and I am in Phx, so it would've been a few more hundred for shipping, but I lucked out and the guy was going to Tucson to visit his son, and offered to hand deliver it for $100! Then the install would've been ~$1000, but I did it myself. I also modified it quite a bit, since it (all of them) just comes with one channel for the bike, and my bike has 2 front wheels (vespa mp3), so I welded a frame of 2" tubing and put expanded metal on it. This way, I could also haul other stuff sometimes too. I also made a rack for two bicycles in the space between the bike and the coach. 'Am just about to try it all out for the first time next week, when we head to northern Cal on or maiden voyage since we got the coach (except for a mad-dash home from Florida, after buying it from Randy). I can't see how to put a photo on here, but I have some if anyone's interested.

Fred
Hi Fred,

PICTURES, PICTURES, PICTUES, post some pictures of your installation, so everybody can see what you did. If you don't know how to post them just email them to me at iamflagman@aol.com and I'll post them for you, but here is where to find instructions about posting pictures yourself, it isn't that hard to do;

How can I add a photo to the body of my message?

I'm out of here and heading to the race track at Maxton, I won't be back on the forum until after 9pm tonight when I can use the free minutes on my cellular phpne to access the Internet.
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hey Fred!
have a great trip!
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My buddy made me one out of a wheel chair lift, he cut off the chair part and added a piece of 6" channel to put the bike on, works great.
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John, I always love your posts. I am thinking the trailer is a nice all around option, but I can't figure out how to get out of the car once I drive it in!
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Mike,

You have an excellent point there, when I'm using the Rabbit Cabriolet (Convertible) it is just a matter of opening the door only the few inches that I can and with the top down, basically stepping up and out of the car, but when I'm loading and unloading the race car a Rabbit GTI 2 door sedan, I have to crawl in and out of the window, which was a real motivator when the decision came to loose some weight

Here is an early photo of the Cabriolet in the trailer with the top down, it has gotten a little more crowded in there since then, with more things hanging on the walls, including four spare tires, so there is much room to get around the car, but I manage. I'm loading this photo using my cellular phone, so I hope that it comes out OK.


http://www.pbase.com/iamflagman/image/49021495

If both cars were not lowered like they are, the Cabriolet is lowered 1 1/2 inches and the race car 3 inches, it would be easier, or if it was a Jeep or a Land Rover or something that set up higher, that would allow the doors to open up above the trailers inner wheel well covers, thus giving more access room. You can also have the optional side door built into the sidewall of the trailer itself, that gives even more room to open a vehicle door into, but I knew that my cars were so low already that the doors were going to come in contact with the inner fender wells, so adding the expense of another side door didn't make any sense to me. My trailer is 8' wide inside and 8' 6" on the outside and is considered an AUTOCARRIER trailer.

The trailer has a Dovetail rear floor and a 4000# capacity door, but when loading and unloading only the race car being that it is so low, I have to drop the suspension on the 'Bird, chock the front wheels and then raise the rear levelers so that in effect, that raises the front of the trailer, giving me even more of an angle to move the car in and out, without some of the bottom of the race cars parts scrapping the entryway of the trailer floor and even doing that the front spoiler on the race car still scrapes the transition point with the pavement just a little bit, but since it is a plastic material, it flexes enough to not do more than add small scratches to it.
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On my open trailer I can just open the door of the Land Rover and stand on the fender. The fender on that thing is pretty sturdy as well as being designed to be detachable so that you can remove it if you have car door clearance issues.

With John Finn's enclosed trailer I'm impressed that he has as much space as he does for a VW Golf. Excellent! I thought that you were hauling something like a Formula Vee around.
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On my open trailer I can just open the door of the Land Rover and stand on the fender. The fender on that thing is pretty sturdy as well as being designed to be detachable so that you can remove it if you have car door clearance issues.

With John Finn's enclosed trailer I'm impressed that he has as much space as he does for a VW Golf. Excellent! I thought that you were hauling something like a Formula Vee around.
If I don't load the motorcycle and remove the 2000 watt generator, which is designed to be easily removed if need be, I can actually load my 1989 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham RWD sedan inside, i had it built to carry any of my cars.
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Is that Gauge 1 Railway Track I spy on the floor under the cabriolet? I have a bit of a live steam habit, so good to see people are taking trains on the raod with their Birds! We should plan a Bird Bash at Train Mountain in Oregon!
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Is that Gauge 1 Railway Track I spy on the floor under the cabriolet? I have a bit of a live steam habit, so good to see people are taking trains on the raod with their Birds! We should plan a Bird Bash at Train Mountain in Oregon!
Mike,

No that is what is called E Track and it is used to secure tiedown loops and straps, it offers more of a variety of positions to choose from. I have it installed at each side and in the middle of the entire length of the trailer floor, as well as along each side of the interior walls too.


http://www.northerntool.com/images/p.../450786_lg.gif

It can be purchased at Northern Tools and other places, it takes the E Track connectors to attach the tiedown straps to.
http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/w..._153963_153963

While it isn't anything that can be used for a railroad track, I'm still somewhat of a fan of the BIG ONES, as I grew up in Rock Island, Ill. and even if it no longer exists, we all know that no matter what you call it, the ROCK or the C.R.I.P. or even if you just call it the Rock Island Lines.............SHE'S A MIGHTY FINE ROAD
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