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(A) Changing toad lights to LED's will drop the current load on the system. LED's on the bus are also a good idea, keeping in mind you may need to keep some filament bulbs in the system to create enough load to activate the flashers.
KC,

I used a no load LED Flasher that has a built in load, just R&R the flasher, and maybe like on mine you will have to attach a ground wire that is coming from the flasher itself, it works great with both the 'Bird and trailers 11 LED turn signals per side (R&L) working off of it*.

I just ordered another one for a spare http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/EF32R...Q5fAccessories


*My no load LED Flasher activates one of the White-Rogers solenoids for the turn signals.
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John,
Great info. I have never knew that thing existed, although I should have known with all the LED stuff available for autos. See what happens when you are exiled to your garage for years and not permitted to associate with normal people . If I promise to behave myself mama lets me in the house once or twice a week - to pet the dog and maybe molest the cat if she ain't lookin'. Anyway, I have a couple of questions regarding the no load flasher installation. Will this flasher work with standard lamps or are you locked in to LED's?. Can you mix std. & LED? In your set up I assume you only tow your trailer. I may be towing different vehicles or trailers at different times which still presents a possible problem with additional standard type lamps. I see no reason a relay system would not work satisfactory in either situation. Sort of a safety net - back up - redundant - Bluebird philosophy. Please correct me if I am misguided, misinformed, wrong, ignorant, stupid, dumb, silly, pig headed, big headed, or any other complimentary phrase you can thing of . Me tinks I will tinker the relay system first then move on to LED's when built up wallet time reoccurs. Gotta take out another mortgage in order to fuel up for next trip .
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I have a couple of questions regarding the no load flasher installation. Will this flasher work with standard lamps or are you locked in to LED's?. Can you mix std. & LED? In your set up I assume you only tow your trailer..
I really can't answer that with first hand experience.
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they will work with standard bulbs
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The writing is on the wall, LEDs these days are SO much better. Fixing to hack up some tailights just so I insert led modules behind the stock lenses and can blind anyone following my mother down the road. The old Hellas she has (odd size) are really pitiful. Already done clearance lights, much nicer appearance at night.
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I'm off to see the God Father of PT's this morning. We'll talk about these tail lights flashers and all things related. I'm thinking KC that in my case maybe one of the things (perhaps the first thing) to do is to switch over to LED lights. Maybe that would be all that's needed???? Wonder if Stephen has LED tail lights for my 87? Guess if I ask he'll tell me.
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Anything you can do to reduce the power demands will be a good thing. Also your batteries and charging system will thank you Christmas is coming.

PS - Don't weld the lights in
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KC. I wouldn't weld the lights on. I'd weld them OFF. My wife doesn't know that light switches have an off position. Something I complain (and that wasn't the word I really wanted to use) about all the time.
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The writing is on the wall, LEDs these days are SO much better. Fixing to hack up some tailights just so I insert led modules behind the stock lenses and can blind anyone following my mother down the road. The old Hellas she has (odd size) are really pitiful. Already done clearance lights, much nicer appearance at night.

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First of all I don't know what the lens looks like on your coach's lights, but before you go to that trouble, I'd like to mention that I basically did the same thing thinking that the first less expensive and just as bright LEDS that I used would fit my needs for brighter Stop/Turn/Tail lights, just insert a that LED light behind the stock lens so I could retain the stock look, but I found out that due to the way that the stock taillight lens was designed to enhance the incandescent bulbs didn't enhance or even allow the LED's to sufficiently do their job, in fact they were worse off with the stock lens in front of them, that is why I chose to just replace the complete stock lights with LED's.

I did however use the stock side turn signals complete light assembly and inserted LED bulbs in them as they gave me what I needed at quite a savings in comparison to what the same light but in a LED model would have cost me a $40.00 per light difference, all of this was discussed at;

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Me tinks I will tinker the relay system first then move on to LED's when built up wallet time reoccurs. Gotta take out another mortgage in order to fuel up for next trip .[/QUOTE]

4 pack relay system completed and installed. (3 being used plus 1 spare). I am now able to tow most anything without having to worry about overloading the circuit. (I currently have 12 additional filaments to power on my enclosed trailer – may add 4 more). I can try to post pictures anyone is interested.
When built up wallet time reoccurs the LED’S will have to take a back seat. Need to replace 4 drive tires. Did I say mortgage or reverse mortgage. Need to have monthly income account dedicated to BB maintenance & fuel.
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