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Old 02-16-2008
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When I bought my bird the PO had the oil changed & a lube job performed upon his 1 & only 3000 juant plus other deferred maintenance issues so when I bought it I changed the oil, fuel and oil filters, CKed the tranny fuild and the front bearings, rearend, and all the filters on the gen set, but I did not do a grease job on either. How often should the bus be greased & where are the locations for the not so obvious grease fittings on the bus & gen set?. I'm heading out next week for a trip to Florence & Huntington Beach State Park, SC, & and I want to make sure all is well before I depart. Since our ownership we have put roughly 3500 miles on it and I will put about 1200 next week. Any suggestions or thoughts.
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Once a year or every 10K miles, whichever you get to first. Be sure to take the weight off the king pins when they get lubed. Many that I've spoken with have had good results from Speedco. I usually take mine to Cummins Coach Care and they hit me for around $40. The oil and fluid changes I do on my own, but the chassis lube is best done with/from a servicing pit.
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When I bought my bird the PO had the oil changed & a lube job performed upon his 1 & only 3000 juant plus other deferred maintenance issues so when I bought it I changed the oil, fuel and oil filters, CKed the tranny fuild and the front bearings, rearend, and all the filters on the gen set, but I did not do a grease job on either. How often should the bus be greased & where are the locations for the not so obvious grease fittings on the bus & gen set?. I'm heading out next week for a trip to Florence & Huntington Beach State Park, SC, & and I want to make sure all is well before I depart. Since our ownership we have put roughly 3500 miles on it and I will put about 1200 next week. Any suggestions or thoughts.
John 88FC35 Louisville, KY "Think about Thunder Over Louisville" 12 April 08

John,

Check out the new lubrication point drawings by Wilhelmus Schreurs tulipvendor50 at 1984 Modified BB Drawings, check out Lubrication Guide Chassis.jpg download the picture to your PC and then print it out with your settings to Fit to page and then you will be able to view it easier.

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Hey John,

I found 21 zerk fittings, there could be more, If you can get this done for $40.
this is a good deal. It is a really messy, dirty job, hard to do rolling around
under the Bus, especially the rear brakes.
2 each King pin, 2 each brake unit, 4 universal joints, 1 slip joint, 4 steering.
El Cheapo, "Frugal Bill" does this once per year.
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Thank you Gentlemen, my blue box has limited data. I'll lube the bus when we return You guys are great...
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hey John,use the best grease you can buy!
its still cheaper than U-joints!!
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Good idea , I use the Red stuff, it cost more, so it must be better
And it is easy to see when the fresh grease flushes thru.

You may need high pressure to clean and purge the old grease out of all
the U joints. Go lightly with grease on the Brake Actuators.

There are a differing opinions, as Shane states, in taking the weight off of the King pins, Does anyone have a diffinite answer ????
Or is the weight "Off", for cars with ball joints???????
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There are a differing opinions, as Shane states, in taking the weight off of the King pins, Does anyone have a diffinite answer ????
Or is the weight "Off", for cars with ball joints???????
I believe I read in the docs that the weight should be off. I will take another look to see if I can find the quote.

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Mine dosn't wander much, but I have found it to wander les after a good chase lube

Gene and Eddie,

I agree with Gene, I couldn't believe how much difference lubricating the Kingpins properly affected the steering on my FC doing a good thorough grease job on the front end components with the weight off of the front end, including greasing the kingpins while the steering wheel is slowly turned from stop to stop, does a lot to cure the wander in my Wanderlodge, but a lift or a pit is needed for this.





The shop where I get mine serviced has a pit and I back the 'Bird off of the pit with the front tires just off of the very end, then I use my HWH Leveling Jacks to raise the chassis and remove most of the weight off of the front tires (My HWH Jacks are located right behind the front tires.

If I were doing this myself for safety reasons I would place the proper weight rated jack stands under the axle or frame of the coach at this point and chock the rear tires, similar to what Mike Hohnstein has done here



This allows the mechanic to lubricate the kingpins while I slowly turn the wheels from side to side, he usually has me stop every so often and then he shoots the grease into the Kingpin zerk fittings, believe it or not this will really make a difference from just leaving the weight on the tires and greasing them that way.

While you are at it you may as well get a complete grease job here is a 1984 drawing that will give a rough guide of the lubrication points.



Here is the full size version of the drawing that might be easier to read;

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1345180 CHART, GREASE FITTING.PDF

Here is the power steering manual and there is a troubleshooting guide at the very end;

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