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Default Removing ice maker

Mike I seem to remember that there was at least one screw from under the sink thru the bulkhead into the base of the ice maker, You need a bright light to see it. I believe it is near the bottom.
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Mike I seem to remember that there was at least one screw from under the sink thru the bulkhead into the base of the ice maker, You need a bright light to see it. I believe it is near the bottom.
Thanx Lucas, I'll look again.

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Working on a water heater bypass for winterizing and I can feel your pain. It seems Bluebird loved soft copper tubing and flare nut fittings. Never use 1 when 4 or 5 will do. Talk about a Plumbers nightmare.
Fred, you are right about that! Years ago doing my 1st Bluebird conversion I attended a Bus Conversion Convention (now called BCM) in Vegas. I saw million dollar coaches with elaborate copper plumbing with nicely laid out manifolds all copper, all labelled. So that's what I wanted in my coach.

Bad choice, had to store the bus up in Kingman during a winter and all the copper lines busted. Behind walls, closets, showers, stove... I ripped it all out and NEVER replace broken copper with copper anymore!

Well, filled her up aain and looked for more leaks, I felt like I pretty much replaced all the copper I could see. Now I've found my 5th busted line under the refrigerator. This one busted right at a bulk-head so will be hard to repair, especially with all the JB Weld on it!
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Ok, I was able to work on my back laying down bent like a pretzel with my upper torso twisted at 35 degree angle and both hands reached all twisted up behind the ice maker and got the flair nut loose.

Now, I know Wanderlodge was a multi-million dollar company back in the 80's with the best Engineers, Designers, and Technicians on the planet rivaled only by maybe NASA and Ford.

BUT REALLY??? Look at this plumbing, it only had to go from point A to B and this was their solution?

Like I said, the bus is getting "Putzie-ized" which is the KISS system on steroids.

ps.. I stll want to know how to take out that ice maker before I do it my way. It'll come out alright..will never work again, but it will come out.
I suspect that "plumbing sculpture" originally included a water purifier or a water filter.
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I suspect that "plumbing sculpture" originally included a water purifier or a water filter.
I think you are correct John. The "funny" thing is it's behind a permanently mounted ice maker so inaccessible. 2 feet to the rear under the kitchen sink was another plumbing nightmare that did have a water filter. So seems they had a plumbing standard put in and if the optional ice maker was used they simply bypassed it instead of removing the plumbing? Kind of a cookie cutter thing?

Anyway that entire mess was replaced with a single 1/2" steel braided flex line you can purchase at any Home Depot or Lowes. I make things "supportable".
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I suspect that "plumbing sculpture" originally included a water purifier or a water filter.
Some previous owners were pretty creative too!
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On later models, BB went to SS flex lines. When my bucket fill faucet was added, found a rats nest of them behind the water bay panel. Left one but install is now cleaner with more connections. Crimper has changed all the 4 letter words I use to describe BB’s plumbing connections to 3... Pex. Compared to soldering or flare nuts it makes installs almost too easy

If BB was building manifold systems now, I suspect they’d be using Pex too...
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Well I finally found the screws holding the ice maker. Good timing too cuz I had just gotten a hammer and pry bar out to do the job.

The right side had screws as people mentioned. You must remove the drawers first of course to find these hidden gems. The left side had about an inch gap between ice maker and wall so didn't think there would be screws there and there weren't. The final culprit was the ice maker plastic door shut holder. Those screws ended up being 1-1/2" long and was holding the left side in. So it finally came out.

The 4th leak was under the fridge/closet area were the plumbing bends around the wheel hump. I found JB weld on the pipe, I could remove it with my fingers. Never use JB weld on soft copper. I fixed the 4th leak (pictures attached) with a cool SharkBite fitting. I don't typically repair with copper but this one was too perfect for the job. You cut a 2" section out and this slides in on one side then then back over the other side.

I was so happy to have gotten that one fixed, we put water pressure to the bus and none of the repairs were leaking! I was so happy, now I can put everything back together and start getting ready for next week's rally.

NOT SO FAST

I went into the bathroom and the floor was wet. Water was coming in from the side wall by the toilet. So started tearing more panels apart and now appears leak #5 is between the toilet & kitchen heater outside wall. I then tried to remove the heater to get to the plumbing but the upgraded wooden floor was so thick the heater wouldn't come out. But after careful manipulation I was able to remove a plank (all glued down with silicon) and got the heater out.

I'm done
... Can't reach it, so mad about all the copper, now heading down to Home depot for PEX. I'm ripping out all the copper I can because you just know there will be a leak #6, then #7, geezz
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Sounds like a pipe freeze record, good you do not have an Aqua-Hot
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Sounds like a pipe freeze record, good you do not have an Aqua-Hot
I think I did break a record. In only 8' of bus I've now found 6 frozen pipe leaks, in fact the kitchen facet was damaged too and had to be replaced. I gave up as I could not reach some of the pipe behind the walls and due to the zip ties and wrapped anti-freeze tape (there's an oxymoron) I could not remove the pipe. The last leak is behind the toilet itself, I'll try to fix that one tonight. Hopefully it's a pipe and not the toilet itself

Since i could not get a crimper in most the tight spots I ended up using PEX with SharkBite. When purchasing SharkBite make sure the label shows compatibility with PEX, some fittings don't show that.

Had I known there would have been so many leaks i'd have been money ahead to just go with PEX initially and not try to repair the copper. I knew better but was hoping for a quicker fix due to my time constraints. Gotta get this bus to White Tanks this weekend.
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Whats another project for Mike?
It may have been quicker to put the engine in the springer?
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