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Old 09-08-2011
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Default M380 Skin Problems

I am in the market for a Wanderlodge and like the M380, but heard there have been issues with the skin delaminating and causing waviness in the panels. Can anyone offer information on this? Also, would the 40LX be a better choice?
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http://www.wanderlodgeownersgroup.co...highlight=m380

Read this thread, second page talks about the skin.
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Peter, thank you very much for the link.
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There is also a M380 specific area, with over 5 pages. More skin info in the threads there.
http://www.wanderlodgeownersgroup.co...splay.php?f=92

For me, the skin would be a pre-inspection item, but not a deal breaker.
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Alex in short the problem with the M380 skin was not delamination as has been reported in many corners. The designers of the M380 wanted a smooth one piece side and the Alucobond was installed as one piece from the front cap to the rear cap. It looked very good but due to changes in temperature or whatever the Alucobond expanded and contracted. The expansion caused wrinkling of the skin hence the skin problem of the M380. The solution as handled by the factory was to cut the side from top to bottom and install an expansion joint. This allowed the Alucobond to expand without any change in appearance of the skin. Mine was done within the first year and it has caused no problems in the past seven years since it was fixed. If considering a M380, I also would want to make sure this fix has been performed.
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What was used for framing structure in the coach? I had a Barth before and it was aluminum skin riveted to aluminum framing. Some Barths have issues though where there is steel framing that was isolated when new through use of an insulating tape. Unfortunately, that insulation deteriorates and then galvanic corrosion sets in.

BTW - the Barth would buckle all over the place, but the rivets allow lots of expansion/contraction. If you ever get to see a B52 on the ground, it has more wrinkles than a 100 year old woman.
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Marv, thank you very much for the information. It is good to know that the fix took care of the problem.

Dan, tahnks for the link to the 380 section.
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Alex, get a white one. Black gets too hot and expands too much.

Corey, the frame is steel, the skin is Alucobond, a polyethylene sandwiched in 0.020" (24 gauge), aluminum.
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You know even the all steel birds wrinkle a bit also. On mine in the summer you can see some waviness on the side directly facing the sun. I've seen it on many birds....
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Alex, get a white one. Black gets too hot and expands too much.

Corey, the frame is steel, the skin is Alucobond, a polyethylene sandwiched in 0.020" (24 gauge), aluminum.
I looked at the 3A website for Alucobond and I see it is an aluminum skinned sandwich with a plastic core. How then is this sandwich adhered to the RV? How is the inner aluminum panel insulated from the steel structure it attaches to?
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