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Old 06-29-2008
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Default Bay Door Hinge

It looks like the hinge on one of my bay doors is starting to tear, does anyone have a source for these?

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Old 06-29-2008
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I got a roll of the rubber material from Blue Bird for about $1.20/ft in 2006 (p/n 1200807.) It fits both my '85 and '87 PTs. They also had entry door seal material at that time (p/n 2226314 @ ~$3.80 per foot.)

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Thanks,

It looks like the rubber is crimped in the extrusion... I'll check it today when we're loading up the Bird for our first trip!!

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Joe:

The rubber has a cross-section like a capital letter "Omega" and slides into the two aluminum channels, if it is the same as mine. It is not crimped.

Depending on the door length you will need a helper or two. Take the air springs off the door. The procedure I used on my '87's generator door (last week) was to just cut the remaining hinge material, freeing the door from the coach. You will find a sheet metal screw at each end of the channel, which retain the rubber in the channel. Once the screws are out, the rubber will slide out. Use Goop (no grit) hand cleaner for lubrication if needed.

Next remove the other extrusion from the coach. This has always required an impact driver on my coaches, and invariably one screw must be ground off. Remove the two screws, then slide the old rubber out. Slightly enlarge the mounting holes in the coach side extrusion so the screws pass through to ease re-assembly. Clean off the old caulk.

Clean both channels, then slide the new material into the door side. Leave a couple inches sticking out on either side, lightly clamped with vise-grips, more with the longer doors. Next slide the coach side extrusion on. Work any stretch out. If the rubber didn't slide easily and was stretched, it will shrink over time leaving gaps. I let it equilibrate for a while before putting the retaining screws back in.

Helpers will be needed to hold the door in place while the screws are put back. Use a bead of 3M 4200 to seal the coach side. This is a good time to replace the screws with stainless, especially if you have to beat them out like I did.

Finally trim the excess hinge material. Re-attach the air spring and it's done.

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Thanks,

I'll call BB Monday and get some shipped to our first stop. Should last till then ;}

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Old 07-24-2008
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Just a follow up on this, I called BB and got 30' of the rubber hinge. Using that part # it was only $1.10/ft.

Havent replaced the bad one yet, its holding up so will wait till I get home... Have a whole list of work to do then!

Thanks for the lead!

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Something interesting. I did a search in my Bluebird Master parts list and found out this same rubber hinge material part # 1200807 is also used on:

A3RE All American rear engine bus ( 4 each)
AAFE All American forward engine bus ( 1 each)
AARE All American rear engine bus (4 each)
T2RE T2000 rear engine bus (2 each) this bus also has the same windshield as the FC coaches.
TCFE Transit conventional forward engine coach ( 1 each)
TCRE Transit conventional rear engine coach (4 each)
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Old 07-25-2008
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The only thing I might add would be to consider NOT using a cleaner as a lubricant. Over time, it will probably break down the rubber. A better choice would be the lube that's used for pulling electrical wires through conduits. Pretty cheap, very slippery and you can get it in a squirt bottle from Lowe's or Home Depot. It won't impart any long term changes in your products.
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Is 3m4200 still the recommended sealant to use went installing these ?
Any recommendations to clean the old sealant off or to get this job done ?
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I tried to source the entry door weather seal with this BB PN 2226314 from post #2 but BB could not find it.


Does anyone have a current PN ?


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