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[Jim Brookshire]

I agree with Don. Plenty of capacity on both axle and tires to add 1000lbs to the rear of the M 380.

[AC7880]

I'm running off only memory here, but check M380 GVWR front/rear/total, versus UVW. A M380, especially a 2 slide, does not have a "lot" of left over capacity on the rear axle, unless you exceed the factory ratings.

Hanging a lift and heavy MC off the back, along with normal cargo, will exceed axle ratings IMO.

IMO, I would not hang a lift and heavy MC on any single rear axle BB, or any other make that I can think of.

Tag axles yes, after checking GVWR vs real word weights.

EDIT:
http://www.wanderlodgeownersgroup.co...ight=M380+GVWR

http://www.wanderlodgeownersgroup.co...ight=M380+GVWR

http://www.wanderlodgeownersgroup.co...ight=M380+GVWR


M380 GVWR 36,100
Front Axle - 14,600 (can upgrade to 16,000 w tires and perhaps wheels)
Rear Axle - 21,500


Real world weights :
"2003 single slide M-380 with this result: Steer axle - 13,440 lb. Drive axle - 20,220 lb. Total 33,660 lb. Cat certified scale. "

"2004 M380 (single slide) one passenger and a full tank of diesel, also had more than 3/4 full tank of fresh water, a full propane tank, most of my travel junk and no waste in either holding tank. Front axle weighed 13776 lbs, rear 21158 lbs total weight 34924 lbs. That leaves capacity for 1176 lbs of more stuff before reaching the BB GVWR of 36100 lbs."

"M380 w/dual slides.
My weights are 13880 front, 21260 rear, with full fuel, water and LP, black and grey empty, and almost no "stuff" aboard."

Originally Posted by DonB

A counter argument: The M380 has a lot of excess carrying capacity on the drive axle. It is typically heavy on the steer. It should have zero problem with the weight on the rear, and it actually could improve the balance.

[rtpn60]

Originally Posted by tsdevane

Thank you Mark
Thank you Harold

Thank you Dan...
"For a heavy Goldwing on a lift, I would only do that on a tag axle coach -
not a single rear axle coach".

I had been leaning toward the single rear axle M380 coach. Even though I have a love for the length, styling, and features, I must be honest in saying I have become a bit shy of the extra probable expenses many have experienced . Accommodating a 600lb Goldwing Standard on a Hydralift will further push me in the direction of a coach with a tag axle.

Jim
The reasoning between mechanical and electronic is understandable.

FYI...

1) I've never heard of a 600lb Goldwing, mine stock 1990 weighs over 800
2) I have no issues carrying this on my single axle 78FC35
3) I'm no where near the axle's rated capacity.

[tsdevane]

Thank you Don & Dan for your real world insights and applications.

Mike
There is such a thing as a 600lb Goldwing. I have a 1984 GW Standard. '84 was actually the last year that Honda manufactured the bike w/o having to get the Interstate or Aspencade pkg; thus no windshield, fairings, or saddle/trunk storage. The "Standard " was commonly referred to as "Naked."

Timothy

[rtpn60]

Originally Posted by tsdevane

Thank you Don & Dan for your real world insights and applications.

Mike
There is such a thing as a 600lb Goldwing. I have a 1984 GW Standard. '84 was actually the last year that Honda manufactured the bike w/o having to get the Interstate or Aspencade pkg; thus no windshield, fairings, or saddle/trunk storage. The "Standard " was commonly referred to as "Naked."

Timothy

Thanx for the update. I knew my '84 Aspen cade was heavier. Didn't know about "naked" except for the Vaulkrey. As long as you're using two receivers you'll be fine. See ya on the road. :-)

[tsdevane]

Looking forward to it Sir.