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In late January I plan to make a trip from Minnesota to Florida and back. I’m relatively inexperienced regarding winter travel in a 1980 FC with air suspension and brakes.

I plan to de-winterize when I’m far enough south and then re-winterize on the trip back up north.

A previous owner replaced the Racor with something else.
I do not think the Racor replacement has diesel heating .
I plan to treat the diesel with the Power Service Diesel Fuel Supplement +Cetane Boost.
I’m hoping that will take care of the diesel gelling concern.

I have a Bendix AD-9 Air Dryer in which I replaced the desiccant a few years ago.
Is it recommended to put alcohol in the air system?
If so, where?

Thanks, Jay
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In late January I plan to make a trip from Minnesota to Florida and back. I’m relatively inexperienced regarding winter travel in a 1980 FC with air suspension and brakes.

I plan to de-winterize when I’m far enough south and then re-winterize on the trip back up north.

A previous owner replaced the Racor with something else.
I do not think the Racor replacement has diesel heating .
I plan to treat the diesel with the Power Service Diesel Fuel Supplement +Cetane Boost.
I’m hoping that will take care of the diesel gelling concern.

I have a Bendix AD-9 Air Dryer in which I replaced the desiccant a few years ago.
Is it recommended to put alcohol in the air system?
If so, where?

Thanks, Jay
Jay,
Make sure you also treat the diesel on your return trip. You don't want gelling problems on the way home.
If your Air Dryer is working properly you shouldn't have water in your air lines. You wont know that until you leave.
Alcohol gets added to the air hose by the air compressor. If you need to use some alcohol, use it sparingly.
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Yes, my plan was to treat the diesel for both directions.
I believe my air dryer is working properly but I'd kinda hate to get stranded.
Do you do winter travel? If so, do you use alcohol?
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Yes, my plan was to treat the diesel for both directions.
I believe my air dryer is working properly but I'd kinda hate to get stranded.
Do you do winter travel? If so, do you use alcohol?
Jay,
We do travel to the south in February. I have used alcohol once, not on a
regular basis. I make sure I check my air tanks for water before I put it away for the winter and I hope for warm sunny days when we leave.
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I don't think you need alky in the air lines, but it might be smart to drain the tanks to be sure it's dry. If you have the heat going in the bus you shouldn't need to be winterized in there, but probably just don't use the (empty) grey/black tanks until you're out of the freeze to be safe. It's probably smart to run some anti-gel additive on your last fill up prior to heading back north, but you should be OK going south with northern fuel.
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In late January I plan to make a trip from Minnesota to Florida and back. I’m relatively inexperienced regarding winter travel in a 1980 FC with air suspension and brakes.

I plan to de-winterize when I’m far enough south and then re-winterize on the trip back up north.

A previous owner replaced the Racor with something else.
I do not think the Racor replacement has diesel heating .
I plan to treat the diesel with the Power Service Diesel Fuel Supplement +Cetane Boost.
I’m hoping that will take care of the diesel gelling concern.

I have a Bendix AD-9 Air Dryer in which I replaced the desiccant a few years ago.
Is it recommended to put alcohol in the air system?
If so, where?

Thanks, Jay
Double the dose when headed north into Winter.
Have a good generator & toad, your two life lines
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Howdy Al,
I have checked my tanks for water and they seem ok.
I'm glad to hear of your experience.
Our winter temperatures should be about the same.
I think I'm going to "go for it" without alcohol and keep my fingers crossed.
Thanks for the reply.
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Hi Bill,
My generator is good.
I was debating bringing the "toad" but you just helped me make the decision.
Big Jay
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Howdy Al,
I have checked my tanks for water and they seem ok.
I'm glad to hear of your experience.
Our winter temperatures should be about the same.
I think I'm going to "go for it" without alcohol and keep my fingers crossed.
Thanks for the reply.
Jay
Winter travel is always a little more challenging. It's really important to stay warm for safety and keep that Bird warm, even if you need to run the generator 24/7, and idle the 3208 during rest and sleep time.
Mileage with or with out a toad is not much different.
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Depends how cold it is. I have done a trip from Winnipeg to Florida and back in Winter. I plan on doing a trip from Winnipeg to Arizona this January. Having done it once the biggest issue I ran into was salt - I will never drive my bus in the salt again.

If it's going to be very cold, like -40 then I will leave the generator run full time and use the block heater at night for the 3208. If the temp is moderately cold I will start the generator cold in the evening and run the block heater and propane for heat.

I would not worry about an alcohol evaporator. If your air dryer is operating properly you will be fine. You may need a winter front or card board on the grill to keep the 3208 warm through, especially if you intend to run all the chassis heaters.

Having 75w90 in the differential instead of that 140w paste that Rockwell recommended at one time. Even 80w90 is pretty thick in winter.

Generator always was 0w40 full synthetic for cold starts.

Of course you will have to do the standard winterizing. I always dump a jug of howes diesel fuel conditioner in the tank - summer or winter.

Bill is right, you will have summer fuel on your return so it will be critical to have it spiked up good with some fuel conditioner to keep it from gelling in the cold weather.
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