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M450 (Unique Issues) If you have a unique issue with your M450 model coach and it can't be answered in one of the other forums here, then this is where you can list it.....list your M450 Parts here too. NO DISCUSSION OF ANY OF THE M450 LAWSUITS ALLOWED HERE.

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Old 01-09-2016
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David you need to start a new thread...Check your batteries, I'll bet they are drained. Our coaches do not like 110v especially GFI


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Hello can any one help me please

i have my bird one day..

reduced down plugged in my home down to 110 volts.

yesterday all fine this morning all fine... and then

came back home try to start generator it would not start and switches on over head dash and the pannel in dinning room with not even work.. the reversed polarity lights are on on both front upper panel on the co-polite side and back by the main plug on the bus...

i already turn off home breaker box and turned it back on and the reversed light are both on

and the generator with not try to start at the over head dash or the main control pannel in dinning room i have a 1989 fs
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Great. Now we will be able travel again. Waiting on our next adventure.
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Great!
good find Bryan,we are glad you have it going.
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First thanks for all the help, John, Jerry, Lee and Randy,

Got out there this morning and double checked the main switch. No voltage drop under load. Using some #4 wire made a jumper from the good voltage at the switch in the rear to the front stud. All fuses in place.....no change.

Got meter and checked voltage, meter grounded to ground stud and only read 7 volts again... It hit me like a rock.. Each time I was measuring voltage I was using the ground stud, clamped meter to the metal frame and guess what...13.7 volts. I had ASSUMED that since I was reading the 24 volt side using them and getting good voltage that I had a good ground.

Took my jumper wire and ran from the ground stud to a chassis ground and all is well . Made a new ground and runs like a bird should.

A wise man told me when I bought the first bird, 77 FC , check those grounds !!!

Again thanks for all the help, learned a lot !!! Now where is that scotch.....
Good job Bryan – glad to see that you stuck with it and got it going.
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John ,, This is a 24v coach, Right? Where does it get 12V?,
Bryan, just trying to better understand your electrical system.
Hi Mallie,

Not really, some circuits in the 450’s do require 24 volts but a lot of circuits require 12 volts so they use a split battery system where the batteries are connected in series and parallel combinations in order to get 24 volts and 12 volts.
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Heh Randy, Are those latching or non latching Big Boy relays?
Mike didn't you have the same no start problem 3 years ago? I was talking to John Wyatt yesterday about the no start issues that is being talked about in this forum, I had similar issue but my problem was the bus power switch by the door that went bad, had to drive to Clearwater where Johnny Anderson replaced and reprogramed the switch for me at the time.
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Heh Hish,
Great to hear from you !!! NO. unfortunately my problem was that some Jackass did not remember to close the engine hatch before trying to start the coach from the front. It took a call to George Morris to figure it out, and as soon as the words were coming out of his mouth, I called myself EVERY name in the book. I can laugh about it now but boy did I feel like a complete idiot.
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Did you find where the ground stud was not grounded? There is a 12 v power distribution center in the large gray metal box (road side in bay 2). Many of the 12 v power needs go thru that box.

Example: The leveling system-Quadrafoot- gets its power from there. BB used a 100+amp fuse. It is supposed to be a large self resetting Relay according to the manufacturer.
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As of now I have not located where the failed ground is located I ran another an solved the problem. I have not been in the box you describe as of yet. My next thing to check is the Hadley system. Levels good and after about 30 minutes appears to raise back to ride height. Hadley says this can be caused by loss of ground to the system and it is grounded through the parking brake switch.
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to minimize the corrosion we use a coating on electrical connections. Any time you have moisture with mineral content and introduce electrical current corrosion excels, There are anti corrosions like corrosion X , it leaves a chemical barrier to minimize the corrosion.
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