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Old 04-11-2011
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As I age, I have discovered more and better light is a good thing. While I rarely drive the BMC at night I am always looking for a better headlight upgrade for the occasional night drive. So far I have upgraded my headlight bulbs to Sylvania SilverStar Ultra bulbs and polished the existing lenses back to clear. That was a nice upgrade and they work fine for me now.

As our BMC headlight housings appear to be direct takeoffs from the 1990 - 1998 Chevrolet Silverado pickup, I was curious if anyone of my fellow BMC owners had upgraded to HID projector headlights? (Before anyone asks I am not trying to compete with the kids but merely looking for options for a possible future update/upgrade.)

I have seen these on the internet but am always concerned about quality and effectiveness.



Link: http://www.mytightride.com/chevy-c10...eadlights.html

Anybody tried something like this and would care to share the results?
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Brad, Unfortunately I cannot help. I have not replaced any of those front end bulbs (or rear end either) For the headlights all I have done is polish the lenses. Since it is extremely rare when I drive at night (if so, some bad problem has happened somewhere to cause that) I haven't worried about it so far. However, if you develop more info I will be interested.

I have more problems with those semi-open taillight bulbs that get dirty and nasty from road grime getting up in there and the contact is lost and they quit working and you have to open them up and clean the contacts and bulbs. I have been trying to think of a way to seal that up without buying new housings (I don't know if sealed housings are even available that will fit) but so far no good ideas have come to me.

I think they are Volvos but am not sure.

I have been thinking of trying to fit some sort of thin rubber cut to fit around the back and sealing it up with Silicone or something that I can open if needed to get to the bulbs.

Anyone out there done something like this yet?
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I have converted two motorcycles over to HID and the results are amazing! I converted my 1980 FC 35 over to H-4 Halogen from sealed beams and it was a big difference. The motorcycles were converted from H-4 (55/60 watt)to HID (35 watt)and the difference was like five times more visibility than when I converted from old yellow sealed beams to H-4 halogen on my Bluebird. Hope this helps.

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One of the best things I have done was rewire the fog/driving lights. As wired from the factory, they woud only work when the headlights were selected to high beam. After rewiring, they now work all the time when turned on. This is a tremendous improvement for overall ighting and does not seem to be blinding to oncoming traffic.
As best as I can recall, this only involved moving the hot wire that comes from the fog light switch. Factory position was connected to the high beam hot leg, now it is connected to a leg that is hot when the key is on.
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Well, I continue my search for a headlight upgrade/housing that would improve my headlights. I have no definative answers yet and this could be a long time search. Right now HIDs do not appear to be a real viable option for me as it seems the law inforcement/DOT community frowns on non-factory HID conversions. So a better Halogen headlight might be a better move. My existing Silver Star Ultra headlights work OK but better and more light is always good as long as it is well placed.

During my search I did find this relay kit that keeps the low beams on while the high beams are selected. I have not tried it as I use my driving lights with the high beams. I merely posted the link in case others are interested. I also have not researched the legality of the conversion kit but on the older vehicles the low beams did not turn of when the high beams were selected so I assume these are legal.

http://www.lmctruck.com/icatalog/csd/full.aspx?Page=107

The search continues........
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A bit of wisdom. It's dark at nite. - - -so nite driving is an emergency for us. We too polished our headlights and found that when the "emergency" arises - driving in dark - - we use the high beams and driving lites - - no oncoming cars or other has flashed back that they were "blinding them".
Usually our nite driving is am before sunrise and only then a max of 1 hr prior to sunrise.
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Well, I continue my search for a headlight upgrade/housing that would improve my headlights. I have no definative answers yet and this could be a long time search. Right now HIDs do not appear to be a real viable option for me as it seems the law inforcement/DOT community frowns on non-factory HID conversions. So a better Halogen headlight might be a better move. My existing Silver Star Ultra headlights work OK but better and more light is always good as long as it is well placed.

During my search I did find this relay kit that keeps the low beams on while the high beams are selected. I have not tried it as I use my driving lights with the high beams. I merely posted the link in case others are interested. I also have not researched the legality of the conversion kit but on the older vehicles the low beams did not turn of when the high beams were selected so I assume these are legal.

http://www.lmctruck.com/icatalog/csd/full.aspx?Page=107

The search continues........



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The old BOSCH relays are now manufactured to the same quality and specifications, by TYCO and they can be used for various projects on your Blue Bird coach. I also sell just the relay socket/pigtails if that is all that you need, email me for prices on those.


You can view the above RELAY / SOCKET kits that I have for sale by going to the link under the picture above, be sure to click on "NEXT" at the right of each page to see more information and uses for these relays, there are many of these types of relays found throughout some of the Wanderlodges, so my advice is to keep a few spares on hand.

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Brad, just for fun I would check the voltage at the headlight to see what you have there...it makes a big difference having proper voltage. If voltage is low you could add a Bosh relay with a good 12 supply going to the headlights.

I'm sure the BMC came with the relay set-up but just confirm the voltage is good and all is in proper working order.
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John, I think you need to spruce up your posts, there may be one or two palette colors left unused!
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its not the voltage its the lights
they suck
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