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This is near the top of my list now. CGG has moved close to me so I think I'm going to drive over and pick up a head. I was reading up on some of the generator threads and it seems the Perkins is capable of handling a bigger generator head than the 12.5KW. I was planning on going with a 13.5KW head but wondering if there would be any reason to go bigger than that? The cost difference isn't huge and I suspect the fuel usage would be very similar.
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This is near the top of my list now. CGG has moved close to me so I think I'm going to drive over and pick up a head. I was reading up on some of the generator threads and it seems the Perkins is capable of handling a bigger generator head than the 12.5KW. I was planning on going with a 13.5KW head but wondering if there would be any reason to go bigger than that? The cost difference isn't huge and I suspect the fuel usage would be very similar.
The fuel usage will be more related to the load than the max output capability of the gen.

The 12.5 is way more that the coach needs, so going bigger won't buy you anything unless you plan to run you're house or have spare power to share with another coach via buddy-plug. The CGG 13.5 would be fine. Talk it over with CGG. The more you load it the happier the gen head will be. It needs to heat up to really dry up collected moisture.
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I literally was just going through this myself 15 minutes ago. The 164D, according to their website, is only 13 lbs heavier, but has identical dimensions. The Perkins is rated at 26 or 27 hp at 1800 rpm, so it should handle it.
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Talk it over with CGG. The more you load it the happier the gen head will be.

I asked them about it and they have a 27.5KW 3PH head that would work. Would be way over kill, but is only a tad over $500 more than the 13.5KW. The PT is parked at our house so I could use it as a power source with a bit of work. Getting a transfer switch and panel is on my home to do list... I have purchased those already.
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The 184F is 25kw single phase but the Perkins won't handle 25kw.
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Why would you want a 3 phase unit ???
Just thinking.
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The 184F is 25kw single phase but the Perkins won't handle 25kw.

I know. That was the one they proposed when I asked what could be used. My understanding is there wouldn't be an issue with too big, it just won't be used to its capabilities. I figured I'd start with what was capable and then work down from there.
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I have a couple of use generators out of Birds.
One is the Onan diesel that came out of an SP,same unit as the 87-89 FCs.
1800 hours,good running and powering unit.
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I also have a Powertech generator out of a M380,2004 model.
its in a quiet box,which may not fit into the space you have on the FC.
$5000
How big (KW) is the Powertech? Would it fit my LX slide?
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How big (KW) is the Powertech? Would it fit my LX slide?
12kw and yes,it will fit the space.
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Why would you want a 3 phase unit ???
Just thinking.

So thought is to use a 3 phase unit so I can use the extra 110 leg up front for an additional AC or other things. I had a couple calls with CGG about it and it should work. I'll go with a 21KW unit that will have give me the same burst current per leg of the current head. The Perkins should be capable of around 18KW at 1800 RPM. That should cover anything I need out of it.



My engine dash AC isn't coming back. It gets a bit warm up there while driving so I want to add something. Thoughts are to add a roof unit up front or work in a split unit over head up front and the rest behind the gen tray... Having a separate 110 leg not tied to the rest of the systems will simplify that project.
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