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For those of you who don't know I've been having some problems with my Jake for the last few months. Came down the Siskyous with all brakes smoking and have been unsuccessful at correcting the problem until now hopefully. I tried changing the relays and various other things but it always worked for a little while and then would quit. It almost seemed like a 'heat' issue, as if something would work when cold but as soon as it warmed up it went south. We heard from someone that the advice Benny Collier used to give was to push each relay in to make sure they were contacting. I did this on several different occasions and it worked sometimes or not at all. All indications pointed towards a 'Bad Connection'. It turns out that the specialized female spade connectors are a little light duty and over time they loose their gripping power. You first need to open up the relay block to remove the female spade connectors. These spades require a slim narrow screwdriver (or make a 1/8th inch slim jim like I did) to release each from the relay block. You insert the slim jim in the front not the back wire side and depress a tang that releases the spade and allows you to pull it out by its wire. After gently bending each spade back into its original shape you reinstall back into the relay block. Now here's the deal. Over time these relay blocks also wear and while they will hold the female spade they fail to hold it securely enough allowing the male portion (ie the relay itself) to push them out the back of the block. So after putting all the female spades back into the block push the relay on and then while holding the relay take a small screwdriver and shove the female spade onto the relay from behind.
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Hey Rob, so it sounds like you got things working again...good deal! Nice having the Jake going down the back side of Pacheco Pass I bet?

This repair would be good for a tech session at the Q Rally next year!
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I've got my fingers crossed Robert. I hit the Siskyous again tomorrow.
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Rob,

I'm betting that next year you'll have to do the same thing again. Those terminals have gotten hot from the poor connections and thus weak. They'll need replacement terminals to fix it more permanently.
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I'm betting that next year you'll have to do the same thing again. Those terminals have gotten hot from the poor connections and thus weak. They'll need replacement terminals to fix it more permanently.
John I agree with you completely. Randy and I talked today and his comment was something like "Solder the suckers". Of course that was his comical fix and we know that wouldn't work so next year I'm looking a much more extensive refit.
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Where are the relays located??
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Where are the relays located??
Rod mine are located in the outside door just below the drivers window.
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