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Old 04-21-2009
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while i was at the auction today i met a member of this group.
he has a 450.
He had his coach at the school bus plant getting his 04 worked on.
So Cerabus is working on the problems with the 450 style coachs
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That's certainly good to know for those affected!!
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Hi,
The re-location of the genset does not have enough air flow. The fan that BB uses is a 530 CFM fan (that rating is without restriction) Trying to use 4x10 ducts and limited outlets. (and a 20 foot intake with elbows restricts the flow to 370 cfm. The Powerteck manual states- Minimum 500 cfm to the box. 100 degrees ambient temperature. No wonder it overheats. The new Premier has 2 fans since it was designed in. Adding a larger reservoir will only delay the overheating. -not change the temperature or airflow. Repaires will be pricey as there is no slideout-- Should have been demanded as in other brands.

Ross 2006 450 LXi

the owner i met today told me that the gennie radiator is not moved when the gennie is re-located.
It seems that the rads are located in the rear axle area,and when the gennie was moved the rad stayed in the same place.
i still suspect that your fan motor is bad.(from the info i'm getting)
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I'm not referring to radiator, but to minimum required airflow through the genset box. Minimal airflow is 500 cfm. The mod does not allow that. Just measure the duct sizes and the outlets under the new location. Conact A/C company and ask airflow through that size duct. Powertech manual states 500 minimal.The genset box gets far less. Try putting a remote thermometer in the box and run for 2-3 hours. Should be ambient temperature under 120 . Electronic parts and generator cannot take the heat.
The fan motors burn out as they were supplied by the inverter. BB is changing this .Now the fan does not continue for a few minutes after generator shutdown so the heat in the genset box skyrockets. Enlarging the water reservoir in that box has no effect on airflow or generator cooling. More snow from Blue Bird.
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Hi Ross,i didnt understand that it was the FAN in the gennie compartment that was bad.

Now,i admit i have not seen the way CCW installed the gennie in the 450's,but the 90's year coachs have a pretty tight gennie box,with a fan to provide cooler air,i bet half of those fans no longer work,and the small screen that the air flows through is stopped up with road dirt in most cases.
do all of the 450's have a heating problem?
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Go to:
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and search:
10289185

Hopefully they will post the documents soon

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About time.

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Default Document on NHTSA

The "document has now been posted

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Default No Proof Tires Caused Motor Home Crashes, NHTSA Says

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Law360, Washington (March 7, 2016, 9:17 PM ET) -- The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration has closed its investigation into complaints about front axle overloading and tire issues related to a motor home model manufactured by Blue Bird Corp., saying a 2015 replacement program appears to have addressed safety concerns about the vehicles.
After attempting to investigate three crashes blamed on front tires of Wanderlodge vehicles manufactured between 2005 and 2007, NHTSA said last week that it found one of the crashes was not caused by axle overloading, and that the agency was unable to establish the causes of the other two crashes.
Full Article Here : http://www.law360.com/articles/76831...hes-nhtsa-says

I just have a news search for "Wanderlodge" and "Blue Bird" and saw this so I wanted to pass it on to those that have the 05-07 coaches.
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