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In Kentucky with no turbo boost. Looking for and exhaust leak, I found the turbo band clamp was broken. It's about 9 or 10 inches in diameter. Is this a universal part or just Detroit Diesel?
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Should be universal, so take the broken one to a class 8 parts house or truck stop and they should have one.

Should also be Detroit Diesel part number V Band clamp #23505492 they call it a COUPLING.
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John, sounds like you need a Heavy Duty Turbo V-band such as this below.

https://www.ryderfleetproducts.com/h...in-p-s48-21215

Probably a Class 8 truck parts house or dealer parts counter item.
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Looks like only the adjustment bolt is broken. Pry the old one out and install a new grade 8 bolt in there. You might need to grind the flats off the bolt to make it fit better. And you might need to use some safety wire to help hold it in there when you put everything back together. Can’t use a nylon locking nut on it because of the heat but you could use two regular nuts locked together to prevent it from loosening up.

At the very least, that could get you back on the road if you can’t find a new one in a timely manner.
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Is that on the turbo itself?
Did the cold side housing blow over?
Or separate from the center part?
If it did you need to check the fins on the wheel,i had that happen and it ate the fins off the wheel and they go through the blower and get lodged in the air cooler.


Be very careful,you need to get those broken parts out of the engine.
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In Kentucky with no turbo boost. Looking for and exhaust leak, I found the turbo band clamp was broken. It's about 9 or 10 inches in diameter. Is this a universal part or just Detroit Diesel?

Which band broke? The one in the center or the one on the exhaust side?
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Thanks for everyone's advice. Couldn't find the part at any truck parts place.
Max's idea would have worked, but I couldn't pry the old parts out without cutting half the loop, so after cutting with hacksaw, pulled them together with vice grips, then wired the band together, then pinched it tighter with a hose clamp. Drove another hundred miles with good boost. Randy this was on the intake side, so I don't think there was any damage to the turbo. Thanks again for the posts.
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Randy this was on the intake side, so I don't think there was any damage to the turbo.
That’s the side you need to be concerned with. If the turbine (exhaust side) breaks, it will just blow out the pipe. If the impeller (intake side) breaks, it could go into the engine. If it is making good boost, there probably is no damage. I would still get a new clamp on ASAP.
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Rain hit as soon as I was finished. Just went out and took this pic. Quick and dirty but should get me through the weekend and to a bigger city.
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The band you broke is the COLD SIDE which houses the intake turbo blade and will need to be inspected for any damage as Randy stated above.
If the blades of the intake turbo wheel were damaged, the pieces will be sucked into the BLOWER and land on the airbox cooler underneath it which will require you to remove the BLOWER to clean out the pieces of the turbo wheel.
If the intake TURBO WHEEL is damaged, the entire turbo assembly will need to be sent for rebuild.


You will need to get the correct band from a Detroit Diesel parts supplier.
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