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M380 (Unique Issues) If you have a unique issue with your M380 model coach and it can't be answered in one of the other forums here, then this is where you can list it.....list your M380 Parts here too.

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Old 02-25-2020
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Engine needs to Rotate 360 to Complete a compression stroke of One Cylinder.
Rotate until free, otherwise something is obstructing.
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Lance remember when you check voltage at the starter make sure your meter ground is hooked up to the ground that the starter is using, in other words if meter ground is on battery ground not really the same ,ground where starter is grounded.
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Default Exhaust Pipe Turnout Cover - Dump the Bucket, Eat Potato Salad!

For the M380 exhaust turnout cover, I found that a left over plastic container from a bucket of Potato Salad (purchased at CostCo), works perfect. After my Tupperware jug split, tried a bucket. Except then everyone at all the CG’s kept asking me what the bucket up there was for? This container fits perfect and is almost clear, so it nearly disappears. As before, a piece of reminder blue painters tape over the ignition key hole tells me it’s still in place. The only drawback is you need to eat 5 lbs of potato salad to get the container!

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I’d been certain to keep a bucket over the stack, so doubt I have water in the exhaust...
Sorry Lance no ideas on the start issue, except it’s always the ground . Sounds like you’ve tried all the usual solutions. Noticed awhile back that my engine battery cables were fairly worn. Might be time to replace yours?
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Ground at the frame is only one side of a cable. The ground at the battery is only the other side of the cable. The many strands of copper inside the jacket is the cable. Resistance in a cable soon cause the starter to muff.brand new batteries often overcome resistance, brand new starters often overcome cable resistance. But the cycle continues if the cause of the failure is not corrected.
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Pete Haggins awas here and he had a slow starting issue.
Meaning his engine turned over very slowly,but it would start.
His batteries were old so he installed new ones,same thing,slow starting.
We load checked the batteries,and the cables,everything seemed to be good.
But,it still had slow starting issues.
Some how Pete figured out the ground cable was bad,the cable between the cable ends was not making good contact.
We made a new ground cable and cured the problem.
I will be bringing the old cable to WOG for a seminar.
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Ok, she runs!
In order:
1. Batts tested
2. Turned engine counter clockwise
3. Connected starter ground direct to frame
4. Replaced fuel filter on firewall
5. Turned all power off (I forgot Geo. Morris told me about this trick on 380’s several years)
BTW, I was trying starts as I tried different ideas..
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Why turn off all power? What are you trying to reset?



Explain for others?
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I had a similar no start issue several years ago, and called George, and after finding out I had a 380, he said try a reset, bus started, no idea exactly why it worked..voodoo I guess.
Maybe Van knows
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Does this reset involve cycling the master battery switch? Sound like it could be battery switch not making good contact and cycling it may help. Could be battery disconnect should be checked. Easy check would be voltage drop across it while cranking the engine. Looks the the m380 has several battery disconnects but one is before the starter circuit.
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Like 1984Lodge wrote, would be good to know why.

those rigs with "BI-DIRECTIONAL ISOLATOR RELAY DELAY" called a BIRD. These controllers cause wierd things to happen. Starting the bus should be done on start batteries. if you need the house batteries there are issues to start and start batteries might best be be charged up first.

The BIRD connects and disconnects the solenoid that combines the bank and waits for prompts. The unit is a microprocessor and does some thinking to connect the banks at times and disconnect at other times. so if you have 8 batteries and one is muffed if they are combined you are likely going to have an issue. The 450 crowd calls this a 'hard reset' I refuse to do it. I just go out and remove voltage from the BIRD.

if this start issue happens again. Try to pull your Bird and see if that works.
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