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Old 02-28-2018
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It IS wired correctly. RV's and boats are "free floating systems". If I did not use the Progressive Industries protector the trailer would work as a source. In talking to Progressive Industries Techs I could cut one wire inside the unit so it would allow it to recognize the power supply as an earth grounded unit. I don't want to do that so that is why I will tie the trailer agms to the coach agms at the 12 volt level
You are certainly correct that this can be an issue. My inverter is not a $1800 unit. It is a Windy Nation 3000 watt . In talking to some experts they can't be tied between neutral and ground without possible damage to the unit
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It IS wired correctly. RV's and boats are "free floating systems". If I did not use the Progressive Industries protector the trailer would work as a source. In talking to Progressive Industries Techs I could cut one wire inside the unit so it would allow it to recognize the power supply as an earth grounded unit. I don't want to do that so that is why I will tie the trailer agms to the coach agms at the 12 volt level
You are certainly correct that this can be an issue. My inverter is not a $1800 unit. It is a Windy Nation 3000 watt . In talking to some experts they can't be tied between neutral and ground without possible damage to the unit
I'd be a little concerned they don't meet electrical code requirements? Also I hope you are not following that Solar on a Budget article in there. I looked over the inverter and that article and it is just simply WRONG. They size things wrong and have you spending over $3000 for it, it's not a deal...
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It IS wired correctly. RV's and boats are "free floating systems". If I did not use the Progressive Industries protector the trailer would work as a source. In talking to Progressive Industries Techs I could cut one wire inside the unit so it would allow it to recognize the power supply as an earth grounded unit. I don't want to do that so that is why I will tie the trailer agms to the coach agms at the 12 volt level
You are certainly correct that this can be an issue. My inverter is not a $1800 unit. It is a Windy Nation 3000 watt . In talking to some experts they can't be tied between neutral and ground without possible damage to the unit
Just to clarify:

Yes, the RV does not have ground and neutral bonded, but the RV is not the source. If you check you will find ground and neutral are bonded at the generator which is the source when the transfer switch is in the gen position. Because the transfer switch also switches the neutral, the bond in the generator is only connected to the RV when the switch is in the gen position.

The campground power has neutral and ground bonded at it's source, the campground main panel. When you plug in your shore line you connect to neutral and ground and so the bond at the source is continued to the RV. Of course the transfer switch must be set to shore to do that.

The code specifies the ground/neutral bond exist in only one place in the circuit, so bonding ground and neutral in the RV would be contrary to code which is the reason the RV itself is not bonded.

Bonding is provided by the source only.

As far as your inverter, I do not have specific knowledge. But I think it should be capable of meeting code requirements to be sold in the USA.
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To add to Gardner's points. It's much better to have the AC connected than the DC from trailer to coach. The AC will be much smaller currents and can be handled by a simple 15-20 circuit. But the DC side will be huge, will have a long run. will suffer voltage drops, and not an ideal setup.

The exception to this is if you're running high voltage DC?
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Agreed! ( ME AND Putz?, I am slipping) Progressive Industries finally got back to me and they have a "Switch Kit" to solve the problem. It will turn off the protector when I plug into the trailer (Q Casino). I will of course tripple check my 30 amp plug to make sure all is correct. ( I did it twice last year but my mind wants to make sure They actually have co e ojt with this for the " neutral - ground issue.
The solar on the trailer has worked great our whole trip and we are looking forward to next years "Q" , RV Show AND THE UTV, OFF ROAD Show in the Big Tent 2 weeks before "Q".
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Agreed! ( ME AND Putz?, I am slipping)
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we are looking forward to next years "Q" , RV Show AND THE UTV, OFF ROAD Show in the Big Tent 2 weeks before "Q".
Sure hope to get some extra time off to see that too
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