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Hey John,
I looked over the specs. Does this charger offer float? I'm currently looking at Xantrex TC-40+ & Iota DLS-75. I have an Iota DLS-75 in one coach and have been happy with it but it does not offer float. I see they offer an adapter (IQ4) to turn it into a smart charger but wonder how well that works? Seems your find is a better bang-for-buck if it does have 3 stages.
Michael I have two (2) IOTA 55s with the IQ4. As I was told you need two IOTA before a single IQ4 can be put into the system. My IOTAs have been working well for the past two years.
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I use 6, 6 volt Deka batteries, about same specs, as Trojan T105.
About 10% -15% less than Trogan, and more easily available, at least in my location search.
With the battery posts and threaded studs.

http://www.eastpenn-deka.com/

PD 9160 Progressive Intellipower charge.,

http://www.progressivedyn.com/power_converters.html

And Charge Wizard, read about Boost, Charge, Normal and Storage modes

http://www.progressivedyn.com/prod_d...ge_wizard.html

Also charges the 12 volt Onan generator battery
Good the last two years.

There are always chargers on ebay of any brand.
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4 6V T 105s
2 Iota 45s and IQ4 contoller...

Use the same batteries in the boat, with 2500w heart inv/chgr and link 2000R...
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Ok, I'm going to do a complete turn-a-round. I'll leave the Iota in my conversion and am now looking at a Xantrex Prosine 2.0 Hardware Inverter for my Wanderlodge. Anyone have any experience or comments on these? Apparently you can get them for about 60% off a rebuilt one with a one year warrenty. That would sove my inverter and charging wows.
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I know this is an old post, but I'm in the process of replacing my batteries. I've requested a quote on the Full River batteries you mentioned, and may be purchasing those. My question is how do you accomodate the charging requirements of the AGM vs. Wett cell? Did you make adjustments to your inverter/charger settings? Running a seperate charger?

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My coach uses 6 model 4D house batteries. I believe that the 04 requires 8 or more of these same size batteries. The 4D is a 12 volt, 210 amp-hour battery. So multiply out the amp requirement (e.g. in my case 6 x 210 = 1260 amp hours at 12 volts). Now, look at the various alternatives, such as Trojan T-105 (or T-125) 6 volt batteries and various golf cart batteries. Calculate how many you'll need to replace the amp-hours at 12 volts available from the type 4Ds. Then consider the space you have to fit them in -- and how you'll wire 'em up.

If your coach is like mine, the alternatives will probably deliver fewer amp-hours for the space they take up ... and you won't have the space for as many batteries as you need to have that capacity.

The batteries in my coach, when I purchased it, were Deka AGMs. They had apparently been mistreated during the 6 months the coach was on various used RV lots as they would not hold a charge for a reasonable length of time. I replaced them with FullRiver (brand) model 4D, AGM batteries from DC Battery Specialists http://www.dcbattery.com . They were expensive (but the price included shipping). I also discovered that they were slightly bigger in physical size than the DEKA batteries -- so I had to modify the battery trays to hold them. (That was somewhat of a hassle, but I was saved by a friend with a welding rig...)
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We have a walker-stacker forklift in our warehouse with 4 T-105's that were installed new in May, 1997. Still going strong.

Previously I installed a PD 80 amp charger which quit working after a couple of years. It was replaced with a PD 60 amp charger which seems to work quite well. The old BB chargers are still installed in our bird and they seem to provide a better boost to the batteries when running the generator for an hour or two. I always use the PD 60 charger when hooked up to AC and rarely need to add water. We have Exide house batteries (6) which are OK but they ain't T-105's (No longer a Trojan distributor in this area).
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I know this is an old post, but I'm in the process of replacing my batteries. I've requested a quote on the Full River batteries you mentioned, and may be purchasing those. My question is how do you accomodate the charging requirements of the AGM vs. Wett cell? Did you make adjustments to your inverter/charger settings? Running a seperate charger?

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I have a Link 2000 R controller. It has an AGM battery setting (found after reading the very complex owners manual). Chargers are on the dual Heart 2500 inverters in my coach.

However, note that I had to modify my battery trays to accommodate the FullRiver batteries. They're about 1/2" wider than the Deka 4-Ds I removed. I cut the back lip of the battery tray and welded a piece of angle iron to extend the tray 1" and I had to widen the top piece that clamps the batteries in place. I had to make some similar changes to the top-clamp for the two batteries in the engine compartment, but the tray was large enough. It wasn't difficult, but it helps (as I did) to have a friend with a cutting torch and (mig) welder.
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I have two 45 amp Xantrex chargers and they have a switch on the front cover for AGM and wet cells. The AGM outputs 14.1/14.2 volts which is what AGM's like for best performance.
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I'm still in the process of changing over to 6v batteries for my house and will use an 8D for starting in my 78FC35. I discussed this with my Dad who is retired and uses three 8D deep cycle batteries in his '47 Catalina. He is still using the lead-acid and said that all his buddies are not seeing the long life advertised by AGM's so they all switched back to lead-acid for cost vs life experience.

I'd sure like to hear from some of our land based AGM experience that shows they are cost effective over lead-acid? I'd much rather go with maintenance free but on my budget a bang-for-buck approach is always preferred.
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Michael here's some info you might find informative. I've read and reread this material several times through the years and it is still relevant and excellent advice

http://www.phrannie.org/battery.html
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