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Old 09-13-2019
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Default Honeywell electric generator problem.

I need all the help I can get. I think this is the right place, for solar problem. I brought this bluebird, for my 81st birthday, June 2018.There is 2 solar panels on top. The wiring from solar panel connect to this. 21 amp battery charge controller. From there it connect to 3 batterys in the back. I don't know if this solar system was installed, when it was built or added later. It looks to professional to be added later. That a intel-power 9200 series RV converter/ charger and Honeywell electric generator, the power line DC to AC. I took the 2 covers off, 1 set of brushes wire was broken. Don't know if in side of generator, has problems you can't see until it taken apart. Have looked for that same generator, didn't find any new one. There not any room for a bigger generator. This is generator that in there now. Would like to buy a new one same as this.
When I learn how to post a picture here, I will.
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Just being helpful, here are the pictures that you posted to Facebook.
Does anyone recognize the coach?
I'm thinking that Honeywell is an inverter even though it says generator.
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Well happy birthday!
I'm not the guy to help you (nuts and bolts guy) but someone will be along.
I think you have a Redi-Line generator,the rest of it?
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Joe,

More power (bad joke) to you for tackling this problem. As for pictures (and they are worth a thousand words). Up top you should see a square with a little tiny mountain and a sun (or moon?). Hover over that with your cursor and it should say Insert Image. Then you already should have your picture waiting in your photo folder on your computer. If your like me and a billion other folks, your phone is your camera. I will often email the picture from my phone to myself, then go to my computer, open my email and download the picture to the laptop or tower and your off to the races. Another way to do it is to plug the phone into your computer with its USB cable. I need to know what kind of phone (android or Iphone) and computer (Windows or Mac) to be of more help. Back to the other way, up next to the insert image icon in the WOG window is an Insert Link icon with a chain link and a globe. That is if you used a picture hosting website already and wanted to add picture that way.

Wanderlodges did not come with solar. It sounds good from what you say on how it looks professional.
To get to the crux of your problem. It sounds like the generator is not making power? is that right?

I am sure lots of other folks will chime in soon. I like to try to help. Try to get some pictures attached and tell us what the main issue is please.

Feel free to call me in the day tomorrow. I am retired and can try to help. Hopefully some of the big gurus will come on in to this thread and get you going before I can lol.
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Just being helpful, here are the pictures that you posted to Facebook.
Does anyone recognize the coach?
I'm thinking that Honeywell is an inverter even though it says generator.
Wow, that is a rotary inverter. Has a motor that when is spins on 12 volts, it makes 110. When I was a kid lots of two way radios (like police and fire) used them to pump up 6 volts to like a 1000 volts for the high power transmitters. My granddads buisnes had a private 2 meter business channel. A few of the old 1950s radios we had used these. I am trying to remember what they called them really. we could talk states with a whip antenna. I would key to talk the truck lights dimmed. That was right before the Apollo program when Motorola brought out the Motrack and its fully solid state mobile radios. They weight 80 lbs and took something like 100 amps to key.
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I need all the help I can get. I think this is the right place, for solar problem. I brought this bluebird, for my 81st birthday, June 2018.There is 2 solar panels on top. The wiring from solar panel connect to this. 21 amp battery charge controller. From there it connect to 3 batterys in the back. I don't know if this solar system was installed, when it was built or added later. It looks to professional to be added later. That a intel-power 9200 series RV converter/ charger and Honeywell electric generator, the power line DC to AC. I took the 2 covers off, 1 set of brushes wire was broken. Don't know if in side of generator, has problems you can't see until it taken apart. Have looked for that same generator, didn't find any new one. There not any room for a bigger generator. This is generator that in there now. Would like to buy a new one same as this.
When I learn how to post a picture here, I will.
Joe, I think it's time for a upgrade. Maybe you can get if fixed by a local ham or electrician? You would get a much better return on your power conversion efficiency if you went with a modern inverter. They are not terribly expensive either. Food for thought.
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Dynamotor was was what they were called. https://radioattic.com/item.htm?radio=1370008.

http://www.dadars.com/?i=1

That looks to be the local ham radio club. If your dead set on getting that fixed, I bet a ham could do it. I mentioned an electrician, but on second thought I doubt they have a clue.

I still think you should consider an upgrade to a modern, solid state low draw power inverter. Lets see what some others have to say. You might just need a new set of brushes. That would be really economical and get you back the Redi Line. Please try to get some good close clear pics of the problem area and that wire.

EDIT: They still make them https://www.kollmorgen.com/en-us/pro...on-generators/

Only thing is they still use way more energy than a modern inverter to make AC.
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Randy hit it on the head as it is a Redi-Line generator used ages ago to use 12 volt DC thru a motor to direct drive a true 60 cycle AC alternator. Not very efficient, but got the job done.

As suggested, you would be better served by removing it and installing a true sinewave inverter and not one that puts out modified or square wave AC power.


Do not believe these are manufactured anymore, so acquiring parts to repair may be an issue.
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As others have stated, get a modern inverter

On another note, Happy Birthday and you’re my Hero. Getting a Wanderlodge at 81
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I need all the help I can get. I think this is the right place, for solar problem. I brought this bluebird, for my 81st birthday, June 2018.There is 2 solar panels on top. The wiring from solar panel connect to this. 21 amp battery charge controller. From there it connect to 3 batterys in the back. I don't know if this solar system was installed, when it was built or added later. It looks to professional to be added later. That a intel-power 9200 series RV converter/ charger and Honeywell electric generator, the power line DC to AC. I took the 2 covers off, 1 set of brushes wire was broken. Don't know if in side of generator, has problems you can't see until it taken apart. Have looked for that same generator, didn't find any new one. There not any room for a bigger generator. This is generator that in there now. Would like to buy a new one same as this.
When I learn how to post a picture here, I will.
As others have said this is called the redi-line generator. It is truly a motor/generator. It uses the 12v from the batteries while driving down the road to make 120v AC. These are not as efficient as modern inverters, but since it is a rotating generator it produces a true sine wave which is nice. Again you can purchase a true sine wave inverter that is far more efficient than the motor generator. Not sure how these exactly were built, but I can imagine they are similar to a motor construction, so parts could probably be figured out by a competent rebuild shop.
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