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Old 11-07-2009
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Tommy,I opened the emergency windows every year on the 93WB i had,that Rick has now.
No harm will be done if you open them.
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Default What did we learn from Randy's Barbecued 'Bird?

Kurt, Randy - breaks my heart. But y'all are right "what doesn't kill makes us stronger".

These 'birds (although it seems we have a kinda,sorta, hinky love affair with them) are complex and from what we have learned this week, potentially dangerous machines. In my own situation, I need to learn more about safety, getting out in an emergency, emergency drills, fire extinguishers, etc.

I look forward to John categorizing this thread into some well though basic "primers" on this subject.
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I live in my coach and fire is a concern. Randy's fire started up front and that's where I kept all my fire extinguishers. Not anymore. Some are in the bedroom now. Escape routes can depend on how physically able you are or physically large you are. Skylight or side windows can be a problem. Think about it now before you have to. If your physical impairment or size precludes a bedroom exit your options are severely limited. Think rope ladders, outside constructed steps, platforms etc. Lastly I'd like to thank the folks at Bluebird Wanderlodge for building a steel coach that can withstand, resist and retard fire more than any other RV. Wanderlodges will burn, but unlike fiberglass or aluminium walled stick and staple wobbly boxes a BB will resist and burn more slowly. It will not take off like a Roman torch fuelled by fiberglass resin and/or aluminium composite walls. Often in a true BB fire incident there is much structure and valuables left over and fire progresses much more slowly. This is rarely the case in a fiberglass or aluminium composite wall RV. See the sad result below of a Travel Krispy Supreme Cream .... Like Randy's this fire started forward and burned to the rear. The basic difference is it took two fires and hours to burn Randy's rig and only 12 minutes to reduce this to a burnt offering
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Randy,

So sorry to hear about the fire. I am glad you and Carol are safe and no damage was done to the house in the first fire. Keep us informed if you find out what could have started the fires. My coach is parked in the garage as you know and it gives me chills to think of the coach catching fire in there.

Be safe, and let us know if there is anything any of us can do to help.

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my 93 still has halon extinguishers,so all you do is check the gauge. If you have dry chemical extinguishers they need to be fluffed every few months. To do this turn upside down and hit with the palm of your hand or a rubber mallet until you fell the powder move. Then turn back in forth feeling it move. If you don't it packs in the bottom and won't come out when needed. We do this to 150 extinguishers every month in my warehouse.
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I'm not real sure, whenever I used to have it done I just dropped them off at the Fire Extinguisher dealer and he tested them and then returned them to me, to be honest I haven't had it done since I quit driving cross country escorting oversize loads and my extinguishers were checked by the different states DOT so I could get that states certification to escort loads there.

Maybe one of our Firefighter members can give us some tips. The local volunteer fire department in the small Iowa farming community I used to live in offered a fire extinguisher check during fire prevention week, I'm not sure if they did it themselves or had a dealer do it for them.
"Good" fire extinguishers are designed to be recharged. Normally, a dry chemical fire extinguisher should be inspected and recharged every 3 or 4 years (talk to the dealer for the particular brand extinguisher you have). CO2, and other liquid/chemical extinguishers generally are OK so long as the gauge reads above the 'recharge' mark so long as they've never been used.

A used extinguisher must be recharged or replaced, even if the gauge reads OK. Contamination of the valve can lead to leakage or failure to operate the next time.

Cheap dry chemical extinguishers should be replaced every 3 or 4 years. Often, these are the best buy for a vehicle since decent, but inexpensive, units are available from mass merchants like Costco.

The dry chemical extinguishers will 'settle' after a few years with the powder becoming compacted in the cylinder. When attempting to use, you will get no powder, just a blast of propellent -- and disappointing results. So, whey you buy new extinguishers, write the date on them and replace them after 3 years...

A 3 lb. to 5 lb. model is probably sufficient -- it won't stop much of a fire, but is usually sufficient for a cooking fire or other small incident. More capacity is available in CO2 and other liquid/gaseous extinguishers, but they are significantly more expensive and heavy to use. Some training in effective use is also necessary to get the 'best' out of such units.

If you attempt to put out a fire unsuccessfully -- then get the 'h' away. Have an assistant go outside and call for a fire truck in any event.

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So, off to the fire extinguisher store. What type, what brand, what size and how many should I have?

Also, I've never given the emergency exit more than a passing thought. Should I check them for ease of operation, etc., and does using the emergency exit windows do any damage to the windows?

I'm sure these questions are sort of primary, but like I said, I've not given any of this much thought until now.
Dry Chemical (powder) type ABC extinguishers are sufficient. 3lb. to 5lb. size is all that's required. A 2.5 to 3 lb. unit in the coach (suitable for a small kitchen fire) and a 5 lb unit in the bay.

OEM included 2 extinguishers. So, if you have 2 in the basement, a Previous Owner may have installed a second one. Indeed, I simply put a 2nd 5 lb. extinguisher in my basement bay when I replaced my extinguishers a couple years back.




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WE have two 10 pound dry chemical one in the coach one in a bay they have an external gas cylinder for propellent a big co2 cartridge about the size of a beer can
while it might not stop a fully involved large fire it will make a large mess and stop a small to medium fire (compliments of CSXT railway)
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Randy I am glad you have John F. there with you. His pictures and commentary have been very helpful and much needed. Thnks John! Seems like John is jumping in as a sort of safety control officer. I am glad for that because it has us all doing a double check on our own safety proceedures and equipment. The shock and disbelief is surreal because I guess I seem to think "it" could never happen to me. Blessings and safety!
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Randy and all

When we had our fire in Kansas with the GMC I closed all windows and door to starve the fire of Oxygen. Then we ran like (H!!!!) because of full tanks of gas and propane. The fire department had to bring a water pump truck because we were out in the middle of no where. The interior was smoke damaged, the pilot and copilot seat backs melted. What saved us was the ablility to exit the bus quickly. Although Sue got her hand burned it was minor compared to what could have been.
All that was due to an exhust pipe separated just past the Y-pipe coming out of the engine. Fire burned through the floor board as I was driving North on US 54 towards Dodge City, KS.
We now check the exhust system every time before we start out for a trip and every time we make a rest stop I open the engine compartment to make sure we don't have an exhust leak while the engine is running. What ever the result on Randy's fire will be added to my check list. We can't be too complacent when we take our families and our homes on the road.
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