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This is the link to what many of us have read over the years and seem to follow this advise and information
http://www.tejascoach.com/tips.html
Thanks for that link. I STILL cannot get detailed info on Rotella T1 40 but after reading the info on your link I see the Rotella 40 is actually at the max ash limit.

I want to say I am sure everyone is more experienced on this subject having discussed and shared here more than I ever concentrated on these engines.

I am just reading up on the subject in search of a good choice and easy for me to get.

After seeing the 1% ash level in the Rotella T1 single 40 I won't be using it. I will try to find a local source for a little better. I still have 8 gallons of Delo 100-40 anyways....
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Well from my entire time today reading stuff on the Internet from Shell, their product information I do not see a printed ash level. Seems that would be upfront.
All other makers show it.

I just read that even though the Rotella is CF-2 , which is obsolete rating now, it does not meet series engine specs.

Do you think this might be why DD doesn't list it as acceptable?

I don't know.... Still researching just in case another manufacturer drops the product spec.
Hi James,

Too bad your local Detroit guys don't support the 2 Cycles.

I called my local Detroit Diesel dealer today to check price and availability:

They have five gallon containers for $94.35 each.

They also have 85 of the one gallon containers in stock @ $18.92 each which comes to $94.60 for five gallons.

As you pointed out, it's not as cheap as what you paid but I like that it's in stock and that it's coming from a Detroit Diesel Dealer.

I didn't ask him if he would sell it to me for $74.95 if he didn't have any..

BTW - Do you have this pdf?

http://www.mtu-online.com/fileadmin/fm-dam/mtu-global/technical-info/fluids_and_lubricants_specifications/A001061_35E.pdf
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I do now!!

Well my LOCAL DD dealer is 31 miles away anyways. He has the oil in his computer but they do not stock it.

I am surprised they do not stock it for some of the mud pumps used in the oil fields!! Anyways, I am looking for a cheaper type that is easy to get with an .85% ash level or better.

Mostly just to look for it......
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Just a thought, I wonder what the military uses? Don't they still operate 2-cycle DD's? They have a pretty big fleet that needs some type of oil and lots of it. .
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Interesting page. I would only comment that ash numbers from 8 years ago don't mean much at all.
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http://www.tejascoach.com/tips.html


Read some good experience on this page. He also has a section that shows the change in ash content of the same branded Delo oil.

Goes to show you can by a product and not know they changed the formula.
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Chevron Delo 100 40 WT = 0.76 (24% BELOW benchmark)

Exxon XD-3 40 WT = 0.80

Citgo Mystik Premium
Fleet Engine Oil 40 WT = 0.90 (Citgo is owned by Venezuela)

Shell Rotella 40T 40 WT = 1.00 (Shell Rotella 40T is borderline)

Delo 400 40 WT = 1.35 (35% OUT of TOLERANCE)
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I note that in that PDF from MTU, the specific oils they list are not the usual list. These are European oils, but many of them are available in the US under slightly different names.

Bucher AG Langenthal Motorex Extra SAE 40
Chevron Ursa Extra Duty SAE 40
Ursa Extra Duty SAE 50
ExxonMobil Exxon XD-3 Monogrades SAE 40
Mobile Delvac 1240
Mobile Delvac 1250
Panolin Extra Diesel DD SAE 40
Shell Shell Rotella DD+40
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Chevron Delo 100 40 WT = 0.76 (24% BELOW benchmark)

Exxon XD-3 40 WT = 0.80

Citgo Mystik Premium
Fleet Engine Oil 40 WT = 0.90 (Citgo is owned by Venezuela)

Shell Rotella 40T 40 WT = 1.00 (Shell Rotella 40T is borderline)

Delo 400 40 WT = 1.35 (35% OUT of TOLERANCE)
The problem is, these numbers are 8 years old, with no cite. They are close to meaningless at this point. Oil manufacturers change their specs A LOT.
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