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How hard is it to install yourself?
An experienced mechanic is the best to install a Jake. Eliminates the guess work and possible reworks.
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Elliot a couple of months ago I had to spend some time with Cullen DD Allison in Nanaimo British Columbia for a tranny issue. While there the mechanics all drooled over the rig. Some were newbees and while only a few had heard a two stroke they all loved it. One of the old salts (not the one that worked on my coach) said he preferred the retarder over a Jake. It got busy and I didn't get a chance to ask him specifics but he said "An Allison is bullet proof and a jake isn't". I live and travel in a very mountainous area and appreciate all the braking power one can get. I'd like to know if a Jake is more maintenance. That's what I suspect was the mechs dislike. I do know that I have to use both service brakes and the retarder in many cases. This is not a problem and works well but I'd like more info on the Jake. Oh by the way I love the Jake sound and if it doesn't make economic sense then I'm contacting those musical horn folks to see if they can reproduce that RAAAAAAATAAAAAAATAAAAAA
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Rob,
There is a world of difference between a Jake and a Retarder. I'll take the Jake any day over a Retarder. Much better performance. Using the Jake allows my eyes to be on the road and not on the transmission temperature gauges, a real safety factor. A Jake needing maintenance, I've not heard anything that I recall.
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there is no maintenance on a jake.
if you ever drove with a jake,you would throw rocks at the retarder.
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there is no maintenance on a jake.
if you ever drove with a jake,you would throw rocks at the retarder.
That about sums it up. Well said.
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there is no maintenance on a jake.
if you ever drove with a jake,you would throw rocks at the retarder.
Randy,

I assume you are referring to a transmission retarder, not an electromagnetic drive shaft retarder. Correct?

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There is a world of difference between a Jake and a Retarder. I'll take the Jake any day over a Retarder. Much better performance. Using the Jake allows my eyes to be on the road and not on the transmission temperature gauges, a real safety factor. A Jake needing maintenance, I've not heard anything that I recall.
Curt I look forward to seeing yours, talking about the install and and picking your brains at Q. I'm very interested and from everything I've been able to find out the jake performs better.
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I assume you are referring to a transmission retarder, not an electromagnetic drive shaft retarder. Correct?

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Yes NHBill,transmission retarder.
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Theoretically, the valves should be adjusted a little more frequently with a jake than a non jake. But I'll still take a jake over a retarder anyday.
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[quote=curtsprenger;30256]An experienced mechanic is the best to install a Jake. Eliminates the guess work and possible reworks.[/quote

Curt and everyone else

The guy I got my used jake from still has a set listed on ebay (c-nan2) seller. He has jakes for 6v & 8v. With valve covers I paid right at 400 for mine.

I called W.W. Williams in Albany, GA today. The service manager told me he had two 2 stroke guys the old guy and the young guy that asked to be trained on the 2 stokers. The labor rate for coach is 103 vs 90 something for truck. Waiting on him to call back with the quote for the install and adjusting the rack at the same time. When I told him I had all of the jake manuals. His comment was you bluebird guys are a tight group with information that is hard for anyone else to get. That was said in a very positive manner
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