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Old 01-29-2008
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Where can I get replacement tail lights like the ones on your 'bird? We've got a 1982 PT-40 and they appear to be the same pattern.
Good Morning John,

You can find that information on the forum by going to;

Wanderlodge Owners Group > Links, Files, Database and Downloads > Links
Foward Control (FC) and Bluebird School Bus Parts Dealers > http://www.schoolbuspartsco.com/ > http://www.schoolbuspartsco.com/WebP...ting_bdbr.html




Catseye 650 - Stop or Tail lamp, 1 wire-1 Red, -2 Amber, -3 ClearCatseye 650ST - Stop & Tail Lamp, 2 wires-1 Red, -2 Amber, -3 Clear
Lens: Catseye 9382-1 Red



Catseye 9382-2 Amber
Catseye 9382-3 Clear


You may want to order one of their free parts catalogs too.
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Re: Tail lights
John, just FYI if you want to share. I called School Bus Parts and they wanted almost $40 per light for the rectangular Cats-eye lights.

I then discovered that Transportation Accessories Co. (http://www.tacbusparts.com/index.asp) had them listed for a hair over $20/each.

Alas, TAC emailed me this AM and said that the Cats-eye lights were out of stock.

One thing lead to another and a very helpful lady there tracked down some lights at a supplier and they are supposed to be on the way.

Evidently the original Cats-eye tail lights are getting to be hard to find.

I am planning to wire mine in like yours, with the tail/stop lights at the top and bottom and an amber turn in the middle, replacing the factory reversing light. I'll just rely on the halogen lights for reversing.
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When at the Q rally, the guys from CCW had a few of those lenses that were from the factory inventory in Fort Valley.

Just more info for you.

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Old 02-14-2008
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Hi John, go to the Truck-Lite Online Catalog, look under "Forward, Warning, And Specialty" Category for Bus lights. You will find them there as Truck-Lite #6500, 6501, 6502. I believe you can also search for a dealer as well, and someone on one of the forums has also referred to a business named "Lighthouse" something or other, as being a Dealer. Dennis Davis 1983 PT35 "LOONEYBIN" Las Vegas, NV
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When everything was said and done I wound up going with a set of LED tail lights from a company called Triplex-Globe-Ranger that sells a line of lights under the Glo-Brite label.

I'm quite happy with the appearance and the quality of the lights but I do have a question or two, and perhaps this should be the start of another thread.

Our 'bird (1982 PT-40) originally had a pair of red lights on each side. I have rewired everything with the idea of having tail light and brake functions on the top and bottom lights, and the center lights are amber turn signals.

To my surprise the way that my lights are wired the turn signals come on with the brake lights.

Now, when you run the turns and have the brakes on at the same time it's obvious that one side of the turn signals is brighter and blinking, so it's not really confusing. It's obvious that you are stopping and turning at the same time.

Basically what I have is a REALLY bright display when the brakes are on - a pair of reds on each side and the ambes in the middle.

It's different, but I am inclined to leave it the way it is.

Does anyone know definitively if it's illegal to display an amber stop light? In the back of my mind I am thinking that it's actually legal. Or was once.

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When everything was said and done I wound up going with a set of LED tail lights from a company called Triplex-Globe-Ranger that sells a line of lights under the Glo-Brite label.

I'm quite happy with the appearance and the quality of the lights but I do have a question or two, and perhaps this should be the start of another thread.

Our 'bird (1982 PT-40) originally had a pair of red lights on each side. I have rewired everything with the idea of having tail light and brake functions on the top and bottom lights, and the center lights are amber turn signals.

To my surprise the way that my lights are wired the turn signals come on with the brake lights.

Now, when you run the turns and have the brakes on at the same time it's obvious that one side of the turn signals is brighter and blinking, so it's not really confusing. It's obvious that you are stopping and turning at the same time.

Basically what I have is a REALLY bright display when the brakes are on - a pair of reds on each side and the ambes in the middle.

It's different, but I am inclined to leave it the way it is.

Does anyone know definitively if it's illegal to display an amber stop light? In the back of my mind I am thinking that it's actually legal. Or was once.

John,

This has been discussed on many forums and I'm sure that you have also seen it on the motorcycle forums that you frequent. I have seen many big trucks rear lights wired this way, so that the amber lights come on with the red brake lights, I also have my old Flag Car Escort work van wired this way with the backup lights equipped with amber bulbs and additional red LED's in the rear windows wired into the brake/turn lights and I use a driving light very similar to what my 'Bird uses for a backup light.



I have run that combination for the past fifteen years with no problems, but on the other hand in California, while leading an Oversize Load through a California State weigh scale, the California DOT officer required me to actually cover the red light lens that are in the center rear of the front strobe bar (you see these sometimes wired as brake lights on wreckers) they were just blank lights with no wiring, or bulb and could not be seen from the rear as they were blocked from view by the roof airconditioner, but they were there none the less, so that doesn't necessarily mean that would be legal in all states.

I believe that this would be one of those issues that will be determined by the state that you are traveling through and the officers reason for the traffic stop, if and when he was to issue you a ticket. Here is in part the code caverning stop lights in South Carolina;

South Carolina Code of Laws
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SECTION 56-5-4730. Signal lamps and signal devices.
Any motor vehicle may be equipped, and when required under this chapter shall be equipped, with the following signal lamps and devices:

(1) A stop lamp on the rear which shall emit a red or yellow light and which shall be actuated upon application of the service (foot) brake and which may but need not be incorporated with a tail lamp; and

(2) A lamp or lamps or mechanical signal device capable of clearly indicating any intention to turn either to the right or to the left and which shall be visible both from the front and rear.

A stop lamp shall be plainly visible and understandable from a distance of one hundred feet to the rear both during normal sunlight and at nighttime and a signal lamp or lamps indicating intention to turn shall be visible and understandable during daytime and nighttime from a distance of one hundred feet both to the front and rear. When a vehicle is equipped with a stop lamp or other signal lamps, such lamp or lamps shall at all times be maintained in good working condition. No stop lamp or signal lamp shall project a glaring or dazzling light.

All mechanical signal devices shall be self-illuminated when in use at the times specified in Section 56-5-4450.
When a vehicle is so constructed or loaded that a hand-and-arm signal would not be visible both to the front and rear of such vehicle, such vehicle shall be equipped with such signal devices as are described in this section.

To see the complete code go to http://www.scsenate.org/code/t56c005.htm
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Thanks John. That's pretty much in line with my fading memory of these things. Someone sold a kit years ago for a variety of motorcycles that had amber running lights (not stop as in the Bluebird application) and the word went out that California wouldn't approve of that so I wired a switch into the circuit to kill them for the very rare instances when I rode in California.

One has to laugh at this stuff.

I think that I'll keep the amber stop lights because they just scream out HEY'S STOPPING!
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It would appear that Florida also allows amber stop lights:

"(1) Any vehicle may be equipped and, when required under this chapter,
shall be equipped with a stop lamp or lamps on the rear of the vehicle which
shall display a red or amber light, visible from a distance of not less than
300 feet to the rear in normal sunlight, and which shall be actuated upon
application of the service (foot) brake, and which may but need not be
incorporated with one or more other rear lamps. An object, material, or
covering that alters the stop lamp’s visibility from 300 feet to the rear in
normal sunlight may not be placed, displayed, installed, affixed, or applied
over a stop lamp.
Ch. 2000-313 LAWS OF FLORIDA Ch. 2000-313"
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There was a thread on restoreing the finish on lights,
I do not remember, when or who asked for help.

Will this help??? http://www.myheadlight.com/
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Have you thought about using a third(center) brake light? Perhaps using a led or strobe
police or fire light. I installed a police lite that was used on the outside rear view mirror.
Put it in the center of the grille. It is high enough to be seen over my toad. It has various settings of lite ie.. steady, blinking, and several types of flashing. Very bright!!
and on blinking, really gets someones attention.
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