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I cannot state in many words how it warms my heart to see the kindness and support that our Bluebird owners show when a fellow Bluebird owner is in need of help. Way to go to all it is something that the world needs to learn.
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I need 3 of those stackable hydraulic filters, NAPA 7196 and others. I cannot find anything in stock to ship overnight online. Any ideas?

I've got my reman'd old motor, the single tall filter and o-ring coming overnight.
Just a thought, you think you need to replace the reservoir filters? Those filters are really only filtering the oil coming back from the power steering, the fan oil is filtered by the high pressure filter. Just a thought if you cannot track some filters down. Let me know I may be able to find some here in Tampa, I will have to get a hold of my parts guy that got me the filters for mine.

Your seal blowing out like that makes me think since i just put a brand new motor in mine as well. Only things I can think is the seal was not installed properly, some sort of pressure spike in the system or the motor was sitting for a while in stock... This concerned me about my new motor, was how long has it been sitting on the shelf with those seals?
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Glad you got it handled Andy!
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If you need us to come help let us know,we are an hour away.
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I have to tell ya, there are some very good folks down here where we are tonight. We were off the side of the road and as traffic picked up more and more people stopped to see how we were doing and offering to help. I ended up finding (Google!) and talking to a man who has a small home-based hydraulic shop only 4 miles away. He stopped over after his job was complete in town a few hours later and brought out the tools and found some 1" JIC fittings to bypass the fan motor. I got all those all installed and was able to drive the bus the 4 miles to his place for the night. He gave me the keys to his car to go run around tomorrow and drop the wife off at the airport. ****** way to end a nice vaca.

I need to figure out why this seal popped out though.
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I have to tell ya, there are some very good folks down here where we are tonight. We were off the side of the road and as traffic picked up more and more people stopped to see how we were doing and offering to help. I ended up finding (Google!) and talking to a man who has a small home-based hydraulic shop only 4 miles away. He stopped over after his job was complete in town a few hours later and brought out the tools and found some 1" JIC fittings to bypass the fan motor. I got all those all installed and was able to drive the bus the 4 miles to his place for the night. He gave me the keys to his car to go run around tomorrow and drop the wife off at the airport. ****** way to end a nice vaca.

I need to figure out why this seal popped out though.
Buy that man a bottle! This whole thing made me think of an emergency bypass as a matter of fact. My old man did a lot with hydraulics and often had bypasses built into his equipment for emergencies. He had a crane business. We could not drop anything we handled. One time we used the panic switch and that paid for years of work on the equipment. Also makes me think about a pressure transducer in the system. Thought, this sounds like defective work. Good luck.
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I have seen a bunch of shaft seals blown out, the main cause is a case drain issue. Without seeing your application check hose routing, drain line should go straight back to hydraulic tank .
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I have seen a bunch of shaft seals blown out, the main cause is a case drain issue. Without seeing your application check hose routing, drain line should go straight back to hydraulic tank .
I know mine goes through the cooler after it leaves the fan, then to the tank. Looks like the 83 is similar. The only difference is the T for the bypass line is next to the fan on the 83 and on mine the T is at the bottom of the tank. Andy can answer if his is plumbed like this diagram.

Here is the hydraulic diagram for an 83:
83 BB Hydraulic System.pdf
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There is no tee fitting on the side of the fan motor, I remember that much. I can't remember where the rest of it went, but I will figure it out shortly. I also only see 1 filter housing on your PDF Jeff. I thought there were two?
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There is no tee fitting on the side of the fan motor, I remember that much. I can't remember where the rest of it went, but I will figure it out shortly. I also only see 1 filter housing on your PDF Jeff. I thought there were two?
So #30 is the high pressure filter (Parker 30p). This filters the oil to the fan motor.
The 3 other filters are in the reservoir #23, they are just for the return line from the power steering system.

Here is the list of parts for the hydraulic system for my 84:

PT Hydraulic System Parts.doc

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