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FC (Forward Control Unique Issues) If you have a unique issue with your FC model coach and it can't be answered in one of the other forums here, then this is where you can list it.......List your FC Parts here too.

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Old 10-23-2019
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I have also been thinking about an 8.3 and 3060 combo. Randy, other than a second overdrive and a little better mileage and overall top speed, any benefit to going with the 643 vs the 3060? I'm guessing the 3060 will be more $$ and I'll have to get someone to modify / tune its computer, which again will add more time and money, right?

Whatever I choose, I'll also be on the lookout for a 2-speed rear as well as a retarder. Give myself a year or so to find all the parts, get them prepped and assembled, and then park the rig and do the swap over a couple months as I have time. That'll also give me time to finish a few dozen other projects in the meantime.
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The 2 speed rear is not a good option to me.
Theres 2 big of a jump between the ratios to be much use.
Unless your climbing logging roads somewhere.
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I put one in my old '63 Bluebird conversion. My complaint is it is too hard to shift with an automatic tranny. Low range to high was ok but high to low you almost had to come to a stop. That's bad ju-ju at the base of a big climb, giving up all your momentum to get a better climbing ratio.
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Michael, you are right the axle on our 80 FC35 was hard to shift to low range unless almost stopped. The up shift however was easy, take your foot of the throttle hit the switch and reapply power. It gave us a five speed transmission when starting in low range. The nice thing even after a stop was that the coach always shifted to 2nd gear "lockup" when going up hill and then it was very comfortable in 2nd gear at 1800 to 2000 rpm 20 to 25 mph without overheating the engine or transmission.
The only other thing to be careful of was to up shift the axle before going downhill. If you up shifted the axle without a load it can go to a neutral position
and not reengage until coming to a complete stop. Voice of experience an exciting run down a steep hill.
Our axle ratios were 4.31 and 5.89 Overall I liked the addition of the 2 speed axle and it was less expensive than a new transmission.
Our old coach is for sale on Craig's list as mentioned in the WOG site.
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is your old rig the one with the 3208T / 643 / retarder and dual speed rear?
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It was the one listed on Craig's list in Phoenix, but i cannot find it today.
https://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/r...001101747.html
The link does not work
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https://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/r...001101747.html

This is the correct link, it works.
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Yep, that's the one. You and I had spoken on Facebook about it where I said I would like to buy it just to put the drivetrain in my fc33
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Randy, sent you an email
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I have also been thinking about an 8.3 and 3060 combo. Randy, other than a second overdrive and a little better mileage and overall top speed, any benefit to going with the 643 vs the 3060? I'm guessing the 3060 will be more $$ and I'll have to get someone to modify / tune its computer, which again will add more time and money, right?
As you know the BMC uses the C8.3 with the 3060 trans. When Woody had to find the software for his conversion on the SP he asked the BMC community for the software number. I provided mine and he had it loaded into the Allison computer. As far as I know it worked. In addition, we know Mike Hohnstein has that combination working for some time now.
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