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Question Swing Out Radiator Questions & Projects

I have been thinking about doing the swing radiator modification, and have been looking at how the hoses are presently run, comparing them to the articles and archives about making this mod.
It seems that all of the ones I have seen referenced in pictures so far had the lower hose coming from the driver's side, with metal tubing running over toward the passenger side before connecting to the flex hose.
My present setup has the lower hose already running from the passenger side outlet, and the upper hose from the driver's side. I have not seen this in any of the articles I have read.
Has anyone done the swing rad. from this setup ?? Does the upper hose coming from the driver's side present any problems ? .....or will I need to change over to the other configuration ??

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Dear Dan,

I just completed my own version of the swing radiator mod on our '83. It was straight forward (for the most part). I own a machine shop etc. so the fabrication and welding of the hinge assembly was not a big deal. FYI when fabricating the hinge assembly, make sure your hinge and/or hinges are heavy duty. A swung open radiator full of fluids is very heavy and puts a lot of bending forces on the hinges. Hose routing is pretty straight forward. The top hose should be on the right nipple and the bottom hose on the left. I used a store bought (NAPA) 2" radiator elbow on the bottom nipple with a custom made 2" nipple connecting it to a new hose to the engine. As a precautionary measure last year before our big summer trip I had the Allison transmission completely overhauled ($4200.00). Part of the costs included new transmission hoses about 16" longer than the originals in anticipation of doing this mod. I do not know how far the stock hoses will allow the radiator to open. I will post some pictures very soon of the mod in its progress. I am very happy with the end results and I think you will be too!
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Thanks for the reply Ryan

It sounds like yours was set up the same as I have seen others in pictures and articles, if you mean by "bottom hose on the left" meaning the driver's side.
Presently though, my lower hose is already on the passenger side of the radiator. It doesn't look like it would take much additional hose to allow it to swing since that would be the hinged side. I just wasn't sure whether the top hose being on the driver's side would cause any issues.
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Dear Dan,
A few pics for you. Yes, as you face forward, the hoses are top/right lower/left. I used the gold stripe 2" hoses from NAPA. They do not kink in a tight bend situation. The worst bend being going up into the engine lower right. The lower elbow is a NAPA #8076 with the wire stiffener inside. I had to make up my own barbed nipple to connect the two. Looked everywhere to no avail. The top 1" hose has to be longer as well. I found the cleanest fit wraping it around the compressor head. This gives enough length to open the radiator. My hose lengths are top: 45" total, 33" and 12" coupled. Bottom: 33" with the shortened elbow. Hope this helps...
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While I am at it, Make sure your power steering reservoir cap has had the vent modification added to it. You can see mine on the inside picture. This is very valuable in keeping your seals and hoses intact. Oh ya, do not open the top of the reservoir with the engine running either! Also, I had to make up a bracket as seen below the passenger locker to hold up my longer trans. hoses.
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Thanks, those are some of the best pics I have seen of the mod.

Your hoses were in the same locations as all of the others I have seen.

MY upper and lower hoses are in the opposite locations. Top left, lower/right.
So it would actually seem easier to me to leave them where they are if the top hose being on the left doesn't cause some other problem....

I am assuming you didn't change the location of yours and yours started out where they are.
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Dear Dan,

No, I had to move the hose fittings and cover plates. Murphies law still applies, that is why I have the very minor but annoying leak on the bottom freshly moved cover plate, go figure! I am also gonna move my PS reservoir down to the old A/C compressor bracket in order to give the top radiator hose a cleaner sweep. Now it rests against the PS reservoir, No problems with that other than I can be AR about things...
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Dear Dan,

We have to stop meeting like this!! Just a reminder that I am "chomping at the bit" to see some more pictures of your freshly painted "wonderful-lodge" Thanks
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Ryan,
Ok. No one in any of the other How-To's that I had seen referenced having to change the locations of both upper and lower hoses. It makes sense now. Thanks !
I should be able to post some newer pic real soon. I got the part I needed for the sewing machine to help with the big awning, and am starting work on it tomorrow.
Thanks again for the help and especially the pics....
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Randy and John Finn are quiet (off line / or traveling), or they would have replied. John is generous with his web site and his many changes and upgrades to an 82 FC,

http://www.pbase.com/iamflagman/finnsinn6adventure

Take a look at his web site, for the Swing Radiator modification.
Scroll down thru the thumbnails, until you find the Radiator modification.
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