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Old 02-11-2015
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The FP 17 cu ft is nice but more $$ than the RF197 was, is listed at 501 kWh/yr and the warranty is shorter. But it seems there are more options than I thought. Glad I have time to get this right
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Van,
I found a big difference whether the unit had water and ice in the door. Look for a model without that feature.
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They probably beefed it up to make ice faster. It is slow, but okay for us. They probably had a lot of complaints that the freezer was at -20 degrees all the time it was making ice.

Still a good unit.

I wouldn't worry about some increase in power consumed for the new unit unless you plan to boondock a lot.
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according to the specifications in the info that Van posted, the new model is 20lbs lighter than the previous model.

original 197 --- 251lbs
new 18 ---- 231lbs

maybe less heat transfer surface and less efficient motors with less steel and maybe aluminum instead of copper windings??
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the thing that made the other unit ideal is the fact that it was all ECM, inverter technology. meaning it did not care it you fed it off of a dirty modified sw inverter. It did not have surge start of a PSC elect motor.

So it the new one is not inverter technology, it is going to be just like any other elect refrigerator. Remember regular Elect motors draw 5 time their running amps on start, and more on a modified SW.
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Wink Ah, but for 3 more inches! Almost perfect...

Love this awesome LG LFC21776ST unit! Same price range as the FP, a much better 10-yr warranty and its Smart Inverter Linear Compressor provides off-the-scale LOW energy usage (1/3 LESS than the smaller Samsung R18). Height and depth are perfect but sadly the LG needs a 36" wide opening Can you say sawzall?
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No sawzall required because the Samsung RF18 refer fit perfect in my M380. Removal of old Dometic was a chore. Just a few screws front and rear holding it in place then unhooked the 12v, 120v and propane lines. But it was really heavy! To clear a path, I removed the co-pilot seat but did not remove the driver's seat. Used Jim Brookshire's ramp/dolly idea to make passing both through the door easier. Don't try doing this mod without that ramp! Removed both the door handle and the screen door so they wouldn't get in the way. Installing Samsung on floor would've required either relocating the under fridge radiator or modifying it like Jim did. I wanted the refer box to sit flush with the existing side cabinet stiles so built a platform out of 2x6's and plywood to raise the refer just above the radiator. The old wood platform was rotted out in a couple places due to the old Dometic leaking. Rear false panel and all of the flue was removed to provide max room behind. Connections to rear are now easy with lower outside door. Capped and tied up 12 volt lines. Moved 120 volt outlet to side/back and flush with platform bottom. Still need to hook up ice maker line and figure out how I want the remaining openings top and bottom to look. Also, since the refer box sits flush with the cabinet sides, the adjustable support feet stick out in front of the refer box and simply hang in the air. May build two small decorative "posts" to place under these two adjustable feet but would prefer to just remove them. They are not really needed for support since the box sits level on just the rollers. Sitting the refer box so far back in the cabinet nicely opens up access to the refer as well as the cabinets and washer/dryer across from them. Used several steel angles at front & back to fasten refer to the platform floor. Noticed that once plugged in, the box got cold FAST! Really like the inside lighting too. Still must insulate and seal the old outside vents. Planning to leave the lower one in place so that access to the back of the fridge is easy if needed. Will likely remove and seal the old upper vent, though it would make an excellent access point for cables from the planned solar panel install. Right refer door opens to 90 degrees against the sliding door cabinet so put a couple felt "protectors" on cabinet behind it. Left door opens all the way.

Can't wait to try it out for real!

PS - Thanks to Jim Brookshire for the great pics and "loading ramp" idea! It worked like a charm and made insertion through the door possible without 5 or 6 extra sets of "hands".
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Neat install!
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Looks good Van, here's a pic of Randy's handiwork in my coach.
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